Making decisions for success - Hurricane Edition

Dean: Welcome to Cloudlandia. Hello, Mr. Sullivan.

Dan: Oh, my heart, my heart was racing there.

Dean: You heard me dial in and then it couldn't, it wouldn't connect me.

Dan: Yeah, that's right. Two or three times actually.

Dean: Well, here we are.

Dan: Here we are. And it just shows you the difference between Cloudlandia and the mainland.

Dean: Oh my goodness.

Dan: You had a major bout of mainland.

Dean: Yeah, we really did. And up until this morning we have been without power since Wednesday. No, no electricity. Luckily we ended up, we had Hurricane Ian which came through Florida here for anybody not familiar with the timing or what had just happened. But yeah, on the mainland they're still susceptible to weather. So it was very funny though because I was doing a, I was doing a breakthrough blueprint event at Celebration. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. And you know, it couldn't have been nicer Monday and Tuesday, Wednesday it was. We cut out early about noon on Wednesday and we actually had about 4 of the people who were going to be at the event couldn't or, you know, rescheduled or didn't think it was smart to be coming down to Florida in the middle of hurricane. So they rescheduled to December. But we ended up, we had a great, we had a great time. You'd never really know if it wasn't for the news, you would never have really known what was happening. Like I was very conscious of, you know, this constant for about a week this was being built up, you know, and you see on the news the trackers and this, you know, giant red buzzsaw shaped, ominous looking, you know, big storm making its way tracking through, up the Caribbean and into the Gulf of Mexico. And then of course, the con of where it could possibly go, it engulfs the entire state of Florida. And we in Winter Haven were actually on the part of the path of where it was supposed to go.

Dan: So you only got, you got the front winds and the back winds as you went through the circle, right?

Dean: That's exactly right. By the end of it, like by. So we got, I got back to Valhalla here at 6 o'. Clock. By 6 o' clock on Wednesday it was starting to rain like a little heavier than what the normal kind of rain that we get. And it was a little windy. And then 7 o' clock our power went out and it was very windy and stormy all through the night. And then when we woke up in the morning, it was actually pretty much over. And what we realized is that it had kind of taken a right turn a little bit and skirted a little bit to the south. And west or east of us. So we got just real wind damage and lots of, lots of tree debris. Like in my neighborhood there's lots of big hundreds year old, you know, trees and stuff. Not unlike your neighborhood in terms of the size of the trees and stuff. And so a lot of the leaves and, you know, drying branches all fell off. And at the front gate we have a gated community. And in the gate wall, like the entrance wall, brick and done in like an ornamental pattern that the wind knocked over one section of the brick wall. Which made me rethink the whole three little pig's advice. Build your house of bricks. They said, yeah. And he offered him. Well, that just gives you.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. But usually a house has four other walls and they're connected to each other. So I think that's actually.

Dean: It's not just a wall Taking.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: Was how trained we are as human. Just was here with me. He came to the event actually, and we were working on his new Private Work.com project, which is great. And he. We went out on Thursday morning.

Dan: I'm sorry, I catch who. I didn't catch who it was.

Dean: Oh, sorry, Joe Stunt.

Dan: Oh, Joe. That's great. Yeah, great to see Joe. Yeah, great.

Dean: And my best. Thursday morning we went out to investigate the damage, do a little drive around town to see what had happened and if we could see why our power was out. And of course there were, you know, big trees that had fallen over the power line in a lot of places. And we were out looking to see if any place was open to get coffee. And so we were, as I thought to myself, okay, well, the Wawa might be open, which is a local or a chain of like convenience and gas doors. So we drove down the street down the main part of Winter Haven. And it looked like two things that Dunkin Donuts. It looked like there was, you know, there was a line of cars around the drive through. And so thinking, of course Dunkin Donuts is open. And then I thought, well, we'll just go to Wawa. It looks like they're open. Lots of activity in there. And we pull in and it was just so funny because all the activity was bringing other activity. Everybody was pulling in, thinking, oh yeah, Wawa looks open. Everybody's pulling in and realizing that they're not open. So it's just a bunch of people social proof pulling in being that they're not open and turning around and leaving. So it was very funny. And then Dunkin Donuts turns out the same thing. People were just going through the Drive through realizing there's nobody there, but they were in line. Everybody else was. Very funny. Just to see the predictability of everybody. It's fun.

Dan: Yeah. Well, you know, it's. It's an interesting phenomenon of the drop in death to natural causes like storms or fires or earthquakes or, you know, the big climactic events that occur. And it's very interesting. And the research is pretty. It's pretty widespread. That's from all over the planet. And it's consistent that the death rate from events like this has dropped 95% in the last hundred years. And the reason is because of the early detection and the news and the warnings start going out on time beforehand. People make their adjustments and they, you know, and, you know, from this storm, there will be people saying, you know, maybe, you know, we should be on higher ground, you know.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know. Yeah. Which in Florida will probably get you 10ft higher.

Dean: Right, Exactly. You know, like, that's the funny thing. I always joke that we talked about that box tower being the highest. Yeah.

Dan: But that's taken. You can. You cannot build a house on that hill. You can. I mean, I'm sorry, but it's owned by somebody else. And they won't let you know. They won't let you. You know, they won't let you build a house up there. But the. The other thing is that you'll get blown off anyway with the wind. So you have to take your choices of how you want to be discomforted. But it's. East coast of Canada got hit very badly with the storm before. This was the weekend before that that came through. And I haven't been in touch with Hamish now for 10 days. His power is out, and Prince Edward Island. And so we're going to have to really hustle when he comes back because we have a deadline on 20 October, so might be Tuesday.

Dean: Network still working? Is the Carrier Pigeon network still working?

Dan: Well, you know, what's working? I mean, if. If you have a generator, Starlink is working fine. So, you know, and Star on my side, he's going to position whole series of Starlink satellites over Florida so that you can pick it up. But you need power for the, you know, the ground receivers. So you're going to have to have a generator or something. We have generators in our houses here in Toronto and in Chicago, and we're going to put one up on in the cottage. I think we'll get one of those power walls, you know, where the electricity is stored. So you get 20.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You get 24 hours. Of power, actually, I don't think you need the solar. I think it's just that you can feed the electricity and that stores.

Dean: Oh, you can store it in there. Okay. Right.

Dan: Yeah, you just store it and you get 24 hours. It's a 24 hour battery, basically, for not every, not everything in your house. But you would have, you know, your lights would work, your hot water would work, you know, your refrigerator and your stove. Yeah, stove, stove, woodwork. So I think we'll do that, you know, as we. As soon as we switch all the wood burning fireplaces over to gas fireplaces. Yeah, but anyway. Yeah, well, Mr. DeSantis gets, gets to prove whether he's on top of this sort of thing. So he's right. Yeah, he's being watched like a whole hawk because the.

Dean: Yeah, the.

Dan: Those who are against him are watching him like a hawk. So he's under very strict supervision by the media who don't want to see him going any further than governor of Florida. So. But this, this, he looks like he's up to it.

Dean: And yeah, I've heard some, just recently, some speculation of Trump DeSantis ticket. I don't know.

Dan: No, I think that's the way it's gonna. No, I totally agree because it once served as santes to go up against Trump because Trump's created, Trump's created a movement. Right. And he would do himself harm if he went up. But if he just decided to be. First of all, if he was vice president, he would only be vice president for a maximum of four years because Trump's already. And. But I think it'd be a powerful ticket. It would be a powerful ticket, you know, and I'm trying to think of who on the other side would run. And it's hard, hard to think Kevin Newsom.

Dean: That's the, that's the cry.

Dan: Well, that, that's big. And that's certainly the most exciting prospect in Kevin Newsom's brain. But, you know, it's really interesting. New York or California have always been the two biggest states. So New York was the biggest state for 100 years or 150 years. And then California became the biggest state. And they don't. Americans don't elect presidents from the biggest states. I think Teddy Roosevelt was the first and that was 100 and that was 110 years in. And then probably, I guess Franklin Roosevelt would have been from New York, so that would have been two. And then Trump is the next person from New York. And then so far, California only Reagan. California is the only the only president, I guess Nixon, but I'm not sure Nixon was actually Nixon. I think he spent most of his time in Coral Gables or something like that in Florida. So. But Reagan, you know, I think Reagan, you know, Reagan was a Hollywood actor and he lived there for 20 or 30 years. But generally the big states don't get the presidents. I mean, out of 40, this is number 46. We have 45. I think Biden is 40. 45, yep. And it's very interesting when a president, We've only had it once, so it happened once where you had a president, you know, elected once, was defeated and came back and was elected again. That was garfield in the 1880s. And. But they're, that they constitute two presidencies when they come back. So if Trump came back and won, he'd be number 44 and number 40, I think 44 and 46. And my, my numbers might be off there.

Dean: Right, right. No, I think you're right.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Bush was 42, so.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, 42, 43. Yeah, 44. Yeah.

Dean: I think the funny thing, politics always to me is just, it's an interesting game to watch unfold. Somebody was telling me about Justin Trudeau in Canada after the hurricane in Newfoundland, announcing this, billions of dollars in support, or $8 billion maybe of support in Ukraine, pledging that money taking off fundraiser for Newfoundland for all the devastation from the hurricane. Oh, and like that's so.

Dan: Well, you know, it's surprising that he's not more on the ball there because all his voters are in the Maritimes. I mean.

Dean: Yeah, yeah.

Dan: I mean, you don't. He doesn't get a vote west of Ontario and Quebec is down to very low right now because they have a new kind of, you know, Quebec party. And Ford had really, I mean, a Conservative here in Ontario. I mean, I think the, The Liberals had seven seats and I think now they have maybe 10. You know, they just got wiped out in the previous election. You know, Ford's great, you know, I mean, he's a proof of what an early pot entrepreneur can become if he just applies himself to.

Dean: Right. Oh, that's so funny.

Dan: Yeah. I have a friend, he was a pot dealer, illegal, of course, 30 years ago. And his dealer was the present. His dealer was the present premier of Ontario, which shows how, what foresight the premier had, he could see that this was a coming trend. Now you can't go black in Toronto without coming across a cannabis store.

Dean: Is cannabis federally legal now or is it still a problem?

Dan: Oh, yeah, federally, Federally, federally, yeah, yeah, Straight across the Board. Yeah. And it's weird because if you're leaving Ontario and going to Michigan, you get stopped and they say you don't have any cannabis on board. Because in the US it's state by state. So.

Dean: Right.

Dan: You can be detained for hours at the bridge. At the bridges into Michigan. You can be detained for hours if there's even a hint. They have the little. They have the dogs, you know, they have the dogs and the dogs know. Dogs know pot.

Dean: Well, hey, with your. How was your trip? I forget where you.

Dan: Oh, we had a great. Yeah, we had a great time. No, we were just in Santa Monica and we went to two premieres, movie premieres in Beverly Hills. And nickname to both of them. And they were terrific. One was nickname. It was Chris Voss.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Which was called Tactical Impact. Tactical Empathy. Tactical Empathy. Terrific, terrific documentary. I mean, and you know, Chris's movie starish. I mean, he has a movie star. You know, he's got sort of a Clint Eastwood kind of Persona. And, and it was just terrifically put together. Very gripping because it. Sure. I didn't know all the work that he did. South America and in the Philippines, you know, and dealing with terrorists and everything like that. So it was, it was really. It was terrific. And then the next night we heard he was doing another one the next night. It's not a strategic coach client, but it was fascinating. And it was about how 50. It was a statistic. You know, statistics are. They're not facts there, but they're, you know, they're, they try to be convincing arguments. But this one was a compound. This one was a compelling offer that 54% of American adults do not read above a sixth grade level, which I find. Which is one of those statistics which I find plausible.

Dean: Yeah, I do too. And that's. I have to be reminded that. And I don't know that's anything, you know, condemning the education system. I think that's just natural. A lot of it is capacity that I'm always to remind that IQ is a quotient and the average is 100. And we tend to skew and hang out with people on the long tail of the high end of the IQ Bell served. And so you kind of get skewed that you. We kind of think that everybody's like that. But then when you realize, I mean that that's not reality.

Dan: Yeah. And I would say that 100 today is smarter than 100 IQ 100 years ago. Yeah. You know, because it's updated and one of the thing. They think that in America maybe Uniquely is the people know stuff through a lot more and increasing mediums than reading. Reading was main medium.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Access. So, you know, it's that they're not literate from a strictly book reading test, you know, book reading test. But there doesn't mean they're not aware. Doesn't mean that they are not aware of things. It's just that they didn't learn through reading. They learned it through television. They learned it through movies. They learned it through the popular culture. Popular culture. They learned it through telephone calls. They learned it through, you know, obviously radio. And they learned it through the Internet. They learned it through the Internet. And, and, and I preceded virtually all those except radio. I grew up with radio. Yeah. And I was firmly bookified by the time radio and radio. Television came along. And I think I've told you the very useful piece of advice that my mother gave me when I first started first grade, which I did not enjoy. Felt it was a severe reduction of freedom. When I went to first grade, I

Dean: wouldn't play in the woods. Yeah.

Dan: Compared with the six years of wandering I had done before then. But my mother said, I know you don't like school, but I'm going to tell you why you want to go to school is because you're going to learn how to read. And if you can read, you can go anywhere with your brain. How's that? I found that a compelling offer.

Dean: Yeah, exactly. That's funny. I hadn't thought about it like that, but that's. That's true.

Dan: And so even, I mean, here's the later in life test of the power of the. That early experience was that I've given up. I'm in my fifth year now. No TV. Not a minute, not a minute of TV since July 2018. Got 800 hours back a year and used 400 of them for reading. So again, tells you when I was freed up, I went back to the original skill.

Dean: It's so smart, you know, it's so. I was realizing when we were without Internet and without, you know, power, we didn't have any television. And you know, it was so even Luba tormented, you know, on Thursday night and Friday, Wednesday night. Thursday night we were sitting, you know, in the living room by candlelight, just talk.

Dan: Kind of neat. Kind of neat.

Dean: Yeah, exactly. And it was really like Joe was here with us and we were having really great conversations. And that's something that. Yeah. You don't kind of. I noticed myself that were kind of programmed to fill any silence or downtime, you know, with a screen Somehow. But was without those. Because I realized after the. After the hurricane when the power went out, we had no access to really know what was going on or get any updates or anything. We just woke up and it was over. And then it was. We didn't have any power. And then we're just waiting to see when does the power come on? This morning is the answer. So it was so nice.

Dan: How was your. So you had. You. You had phone during that period of time though, right?

Dean: I had my phone, yeah. With the cell phone, but no juice to power the phone. You know, we have a generator that we would turn on, you know, to

Dan: power up your phone.

Dean: The power up. Yeah. So we would power up the phones and then it would run my CPAP and stuff. But that's. But that's the extent of the power that we had.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Luckily it was cool. So it wasn't oppressively hot, you know, which it could get here in the summer. So it was weather cool breakdown. It was actually uneventful. You know, we got through it and now we did a little experience transformer on some things that would have been nice to have and we will have for next time.

Dan: Yeah. Who really got collaborative from your knowledge? Maybe. I know. Mark Myers, maybe.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Fort Myers is on the west coast, right?

Dean: Yes. It's north of Naples.

Dan: Yeah. Apparently that's where it came ashore. The heart of the Tamishore. So it cut diagonally. Cut diagonally across the state then?

Dean: That's right, Yep.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And then it was.

Dan: It was. You were hoping that it was going to be. Yeah, you never know with hurricanes. I mean, when you're in Florida, you're hoping that if it is coming up from Cuba and rounding the west coast, you hope it's going to be a hook.

Dean: Right.

Dan: Using golf terms. But it. Sometimes it's a slice.

Dean: Yeah. And so what ended up. It went through the state. Through the state. Because Florida is not that wide. So it moved all the way through and then it reformed into a hurricane and went up into South Carolina. Yeah.

Dan: And so it must have done another curve then when it went up. Yeah, yeah, it must have.

Dean: They're tricky, those hurricanes. Yeah. Can't take your eye off them for a minute.

Dan: Yeah. It's really interesting. And boy, it was kind of skilled trades. I'll tell you. That's where the future is because it's going to be a lot of need for skilled traits and for.

Dean: Holy crap. Yeah. So watching the. We're with Teco Tampa Electric Company and they have emergency response teams from Texas and you Know, all other states, Tennessee, everybody was, you know, descending on Florida, you know, thousands of people to repair all of this. And they, to their credit, they had at the peak 296,000 outages in their area in the, their whole wherever. Teco coverage area. And it was amazing that they got all of these, almost all of them rectified, you know, and that's.

Dan: Yeah, I was reading the numbers. This was just, you know, just checking my news sources this morning, which are Internet sources and they said there's 48,000 linemen, electric linemen in Florida right now going full blow, going full bore. And you know, the states really respond. I mean, they're in communication with each other. I think probably the, that east coast and south coast states probably stay in touch with each other. The governors do more than probably any other section of the United States. I think that's, there's a lot of coordination there because the hurricanes, I mean. Yeah, I mean everybody, I mean I remember one of our phone calls. We just got through August without a hurricane.

Dean: Yes, exactly.

Dan: And saying who this might be one of those, you know, this might be a non hurricane season but you come through. But actually there are a lot worse. So I was looking it up because the global climate, the global climate people of course descended on. This is proof positive, you know, that things are getting worse. But actually I was looking at the records and the. For as far as hurricanes go, it looks like the 60s, 50s, almost 60 years ago. That decade from 60 to 70 had the biggest and the worst storms and most deaths, you know, in any one decade back until early, you know, but of course there's a lot more people living there now. And you know, 60 years later, Florida's got, you know, probably five times the number of people than there were in the 60s. So. Yeah, yeah. And growing and grow and growing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, you know, if you're only getting ready rid of them at 50 at a time to, you know, Martha's Vineyard, you know, you're not gonna.

Dean: Right.

Dan: That was so funny. It was so funny because it shows you how people just don't take a. Take advantage of opportunity that if I, you know, was living on Martha's Vineyard and There were about 10 of us and we had our mansions, I would have hired all 50 of them. I would have put them up and said, look, I got a whole series of George's here, you know, we'll just put them to work right away. And it would have softened the what looked like a black eye for Martha's Vineyard, you know, like, they freaked out. And people said, we can't have. I mean, yeah, right. It shows a certain. Shows a certain snowflake tend, you know, sort of fragility of on the part of people there, you know. Yeah. They've got like a bubble. I've been there. It's not very interesting, the Cape. It's more interesting. So Bill Maher had a great line. He said, you know, first of all, he said, you know, here's what happens to refugees to the United States. Illegal refugees. They pick you up, they feed you, they tell you what's going to happen. You're going to go on a plane, flight. You're going to go. And we're sending you to Martha's Vineyard. Now, I don't know if you know Martha's Vineyard, but this is one of the great, exclusive, rich spots in America. Okay? But you gotta sign. You gotta sign the contract that you're willing to go. And so 50 of them, they arrived there and he said, so what's wrong with this? What's wrong with this? You're illegal to the United States and you get a free flight to one of America's wealthy pleasure spots. I mean. Yeah, yeah. Now there's another 3 million immigrants illegal in Florida. And there they watch this and they've got their fingers crossed because they're hoping they'll be next for this fight. Yeah, right, exactly. And he says, and then it's not quite right. So they. Where do they ship them? Cape Cod. They send them to Cape Cod. You know, he says, if they had sent him the main Nantucket and Cape Cod, it would be the same as the cruise that I bought for my parents. Luxury cruise I bought for my parents.

Dean: Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

Dan: But it really shows you the optics can really be run depending on how people respond to sudden surprises. And, you know, No, I mean, if they just been really cool for it, sure, we can take care of it. We got people, we got beds for them and everything else. I mean, it's going to have to get sorted out. You know, some of the restaurants have kicked in, and we got food for them and we got clothes for them and, you know, and everything else, you know? You know, and everything else. But they didn't. They were a sanctuary island, that this sort of thing didn't happen. It was smart. On Desantis part, he knows where the nerve centers are on the other side. Yeah, he's really smart. He's really smart. I mean, I've watched him now for a couple of years. He's very. He's really on top of his game.

Dean: Yeah, it's gonna be. He's. It's a mixed, you know, of course, mixed reaction here in Florida. Yeah. As everywhere. You know, like, that was. What the. It's so politics as I'm watching, you know, it all unfold kind of thing. It's just. Especially in this. In the last six or seven years have become really like so much more second guest or watchdog door. I don't know what the right word is, but. Because everybody's got a voice now and that. That is almost like the, you know, the public opinion thing is very real and public.

Dan: You know, it's total.

Dean: They have a voice.

Dan: It's total. It's total. I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean. Yeah. I think the. What I've noticed recently is that it's not who you're for, it's who you're against. I'm against this more than I'm against this person. Okay. So I don't think that. I don't think that I'm poor Somebody, at least in the present circumstances, really plays any part.

Dean: Yeah, I agree. That's why negative. I used to think that was, you know, like trickery and stuff. But the truth is that there's a valid, you know, genetic reason why we're. Why that works is because we're program to value. Be more on alert for negative information than for positive. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. And I think the newest Peter Zion book, the End of the World, is just the beginning. I've now read completely four times, and I'm starting on my fifth time.

Dean: Wow.

Dan: Because he just has so much contrarian information in that book. I've never seen a book that page after page is just. Nobody else thinks this way, you know, and first of all, he's the rare writer who's a very entertaining writer, but on YouTube, he's amazingly entertaining. I mean, he's talking about negative stuff. I mean, and he's funny. He's really funny, you know, and he's. If he. I mean, if you just took it as a form of performance art, he set the top of his class, you know, here. And his whole point was that the last 75 years, 77 since 1945, has been an artificial world which was basically set up by the US to coop up the Soviet Union, you know, to actually. I mean, the Soviets built an iron curtain to keep their people from escaping, but the US through all of its security alliances, built a prosperity wall to keep the Soviet Union cooped up, you know, and. Yeah. And pretty soon the news got into all the Soviet countries, that life was outside of Soviet control was a lot better than life inside Soviet control. So he got that across. But he said everything in the world was geared to this agreement. And there was four generations of people. So he said the first generation knew what it was about. The second generation kind of were informed what it was about. The third generation didn't know there was an agreement. And the fourth generation has no idea that this actually happened. Okay, we're in the right at the end of the fourth generation right now. 70, 72 years, 18 years per generation. You're at the end of four. But he said everything was geared to the US basically providing global security for free trade anywhere in the world. Anything you want to make, anything you want to produce, and you want to send it to someplace else, we'll guarantee that you can get the supplies for this. We'll guarantee you get the energy, we'll guarantee that you get all the food supplies you need and everything like this. You won't have to worry about pirates, you won't have to worry about war. We'll guarantee complete and total peace and security. And so there was this notion that it was really a global world now, it wasn't a national world.

Dan: It's not like the United States doesn't really matter borders, you know. And you heard this, you know, yeah, you were hearing this at tech conferences, you were hearing this, you know, at media conferences, you were hearing this at economic conferences as one, just one big global marketplace now. But that was only true as long as the Americans were interested in it. And about when the Soviet Union collapsed, half the reason why they were interested just disappeared. Disappeared in 24 hours. But they made such a big commutement commitment militarily and you know, with trade agreements and that There was a process where, starting probably with Bill Clinton 92, that he came in, he says, you know, we're just not going to pay the bills for the rest of the world having this great right thing where we don't get any benefit out of it. And so that's really true. The US really didn't get that much economic benefit out of it because America really doesn't need foreign trade to have a great economy. Right. S. economy is just Americans making stuff and selling stuff to other Americans. And we got energy supplies, we have food supplies, we have. Nobody is going to invade us. You know, you got. Nobody's going to come across the Atlantic, across the Pacific, even the Mexicans. It's 200 miles of desert and mountains before you get to a, you know, a real urban center in Mexico. So it's, you know, Monterey, I think, is the closest city and that's 200 miles south of the border. And besides, we needed their labor, you know, so it was, it was good. You know, a lot of Mexicans came in and that was great. And then Canadians, if you had any worries that they were a danger to America, they federalized pot smoking. So that sort of took all the danger away.

Dean: Right. Oh, that's so funny.

Dan: Hey. Right. What are we going to? What was the slam? Some idea we're going to. I know. I don't know. It was something like you and me, we get our hiking packs and everything and we, we invade North Dakota.

Dean: North Dakota, Right.

Dan: So. So, you know, the US Is just, I mean, nuclear missiles are another story, but generally speaking, you're not going to see any foreign amphibious landings anywhere in the United States. So they don't have to worry about their own, their own security.

Dean: Right.

Dan: And so my sense is that so many jobs and so many mortgages and so many, you know, so many credit accounts in the entire United States were based on a international agreement that nobody even remembers was based on that and was based. That there was always going to be global trade. Things are always going to be cheap, you know, and all of a sudden, behind the scenes, six administrations have been pulling the plug on this, you know, and, and Covid, I think, just was a thing that tipped it over the edge.

Dean: Yeah, well, and a lot of the, I mean, Cloudlandia for sure has really.

Dan: Yeah, that's a whole new, That's a whole new development. Yeah, that's a whole new development. Yeah.

Dean: Because now, you know, you look at the global access to capabilities in the cloud, instantly we just had, with, with 90 minute book, we had someone do a book with us, but they have a firm that does similar to the way people have Philippines and India, other offshore kind of assistance type of work. They've run the same thing in, in Zimbabwe. And so we have a couple of people, we have a couple of people that work on our 90 minute book team from Zimbabwe. And that's a. So really you think about, you know, covering the globe and you think now you can even, you know, if you work out the time zones, you could really have 24 hour coverage just kind of working your way through the different, the different time zones.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. I really think that, that, that part of the economy, though. Yeah. I mean, we're still in a very rarefied world to an ir. I mean, we're comfortable insofar as we've explored this world and we've. Every step of progress we've made in this world, we've profited from the move. I mean, we're, you know, I mean, but we still do our, you know, breakthrough blueprints in person. We still do our workshops in prison person and, you know, and everything like that. So, you know, we're sort of straddling the line between the two worlds. There's a lot of people who live totally. I mean, from the life they live, you know, they live in communities where everybody else is in Cloudlandia. As far as the work they do, their social life is basically a Cloudlandia social life with very protected, bubbly kind of places they. They go to. And. And so they don't really encounter the material world at all except when there's a hurricane.

Dean: Right.

Dan: And they encounter. Because when the power goes out, that's, that's actually an email from the mainland not to forget about it.

Dean: Don't forget about us. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. You realize, it's just though, I'm really having such an amazing time to be alive right now.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: I mean, just to think of all the, you know, there's never been a better time for visionary to be alive than right now.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. With capability and. Yeah.

Dean: Reach and I'll tell you what, Dan, the thing that's really, I think, the biggest game changing thought for me and you know, as long as I've been alive here is the Russell Barkley distinction in about AD and the executive function, you know, and that to me is when I realized and heard him.

Dan: I read that, by the way. Thanks for the sending the video.

Dean: Yeah. And wasn't that like, have you ever heard it described like that? Like even all the things that Ned, you know, Ned Hollowell talks about the need for what he calls, you know, a bobsled run to keep you on track. Compared to my natural state, which would be roaming around like a toddler at a picnic. And that setting up that external. The bobsled run, that to me, I get it and I understood that. But it's the way that Russell Barkley explained it as why, you know, treating it like a disability in that way of no different than a diabetes or something that needs external treatment. And setting up this idea of the exoskeleton is an amazing thing. And I thought about, I think that part of your real, you know, you were fortunate in teaming up with Babs, who seems in every way to be the perfect exoskeleton for, you know, surrounding you with the support.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: To help build that team around everything.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. And fortunately, I mean, she's as AD as I am. I mean, she's. But she's ad in a different way. I mean, differently able. Right, right, yeah, it shows up. But she's just, you know, her. We all do bypasses, in other words, that were prevented from. Were prevented early from applying ourselves in normal, conventional ways. And so we pick alternative, actually. The second movie that Nick has produced is called the Truth About Reading. And what he shows is individuals who are incredibly successful. There was a guy there and he was an entrepreneur. He had a hundred million dollar company, but he couldn't read. He couldn't read. He had done everything in his Life. He was 60 and he had gotten to the top. And he's considered a thought leader in his industry and everything else, but he can't read. So he went back. There's a adult education process now. It's 6 days, 11 hours. So, you know, you get a break, you get two hours, one hour, two hours. But you go through five nights, you sleep five nights. And he can. And at the end of six days, he could read and write at the level of his intelligence, fully adult intelligence. And you know, he was on stage. So Nick brought him as social proof. You know, afterwards he came up and he talked and he said, but he said I was an incredible achiever, but I thought I was a phony because I couldn't read. He says, all my life, all my achievement, I get no value out of the achievement because I always thought I was a phony. And I was sitting there as an entrepreneur, as a coach of, you know, I make my living off successful phony.

Dean: Right, right, right, right.

Dan: I mean, hey, I think you're missing a big point here. That the fact is that what really showed up was his intelligence, but he was forced by a disability to develop his intelligence in a different way. And, and so it was really interesting to see it. First of all, I mean, it was very moving. And a lot of the ones where he'd be an example of a success, a lot of the, you know, the unsuccessful ones are in prison or they, you know, they committed suicide or they're drug addicts or they're, you know, and everything else. So, I mean, you can always pick, you can always cherry pick what you want to prove your point. And, and, but he was very moving because he not only, not only demonstrated where you can get without reading, but then he agreed to go and learn how to read. And he said, it's like he says it's the discovery of a hundred times bigger world now that he can read. And I would think that would be true and you know, everything and. But anyway, the thing about it, that wouldn't have happened in any country except the US because the US gives people so many different ways that you can succeed.

Dean: Yeah, yeah.

Dan: And I think it's the America's greatest strength. It's really shitty educational system. No, it's got two big strengths. It's got really crummy government and it's got a really shitty educational system. And that's what keeps the country going because it leaves so much room for oddballs to make a good living.

Dean: Yeah, that's true. That is true.

Dan: That would be a. That would be a neat. We had to be interviewed on that. Joe ought to have us. Yeah, we ought to do a three way interview on the importance of crummy government and shitty education for entrepreneurial success.

Dean: Being oddball. Exactly.

Dan: Yeah. But I think there's so much looseness in the American system. It's not a tight, you know, it's not a tight system.

Dean: But you think about being able to, I mean, you know, reading. What a maze. Like, you know, you have read way more than me, but I'm avid reader.

Dan: You've read a lot more in certain areas than I have. That's.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Marketing, advertising.

Dean: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: I'm. I'm an apprentice. You know, I'm just on my first day of learning a new trade. When it comes to the amount of reading that you down there, I was thinking about.

Dean: Joe and I were talking about the books and stuff and I remember I.

Dan: We're talking about Joe Pollard by the way. We're talking about Joe.

Dean: Yeah, we're talking about Joe Polish. And I just now was talking about Joe Stump that Joe Stump and I were talking this week about because he's a big reader too. And you know, I realized in that one of the great things that I'm most happy about is my ability to recall things that I. And get them in there and be able to recall them at a certain point. Joe brought that up at the, at the breakthrough blueprint because I've read so much stuff and being. And had not only but read it but have applied and gotten insight. Like there's something. There's a different level of insight when you've read something that stimulated a thought to experiment with something or to try something and then to see the actual result that comes from it that just deepens the, the neural pathways there. And yeah, I think that, I think

Dan: we're both opportunist readers.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: In other words, that like I, both of us in the Colby profile have a short fact finder. I don't know what yours is. What yours. You're. Oh, geez. Wow. I can't even see that far up. I'm practically a librarian compared to you. Yeah. I'm at 2. And yet I have thousands of facts.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And. But I don't need any of them to make a decision.

Dean: Right.

Dan: And that's the difference in the Colby and I. David Colby, who's, you know, is Kathy's son, he's now the CEO of the company. And he was in this workshop two weeks ago, I think it was two weeks ago. And I was telling him, you know, I've got a insight on the Kopi profile sign. Since David's here, I just wondered how he would look at that. I said, what the. What? Each of the four fact finder, follow through, quick Start implementer says what has to be true before you can make a decision. Okay. And with Fact Finder, you need a lot of facts before you feel confident to make a decision. Okay. That's the fact finder with the follow through. You have to create a whole system of action and teamwork that's there before you'll make a decision to go forward. So they're organizers, implementer or followers are organizers. And. And then I'll go to the fourth one, which is implementer. You need some sort of physical thing, hands on physical thing before you can make a decision. So you need to, you know, you have to have, you have to have a whiteboard there, you have to have slides, you have to, you know, you have to have objects that you can demonstrate or you need to be in a particular physical setting so that you can demonstrate it. Quick starts are the one that you can't find out anything until you first make the decision.

Dean: Yeah. Oh, that's so funny. It's.

Dan: And he said, he said, wow. He says, that certainly explains me. He's a long, quick, he's a long, quick start. And I said, I need absolutely nothing to make a decision, but then I really have to scramble to figure out whether I've just made a right decision or not.

Dean: Right.

Dan: But no facts before a decision is useful to me. The only, the only facts are the facts that start showing up, you know, Brandon. Right? Showing up after I've made it. Yeah. I don't get the rabbits out of the bushes until I've made it.

Dean: I kind of like being a four. I think I, I feel like that I have just the right amount of fact finding and follow through. Yeah. I mean, I'm a four in both and so that means I'm accommodating to it, barely. But I'm not resistant. I'm out of the resistant zone of it. So, yeah, I think that helps. I can understand it. But

Dan: one of my implementer, favorite long term clients that I just love being with and talking is Sasha Kurzmer. Yes. The number one site surveying company in Toronto. He's got 80% of the projects right now where they acquire a big tower crane. So there's about 250 of them in Toronto right now. GTA, this is the Greater Toronto Area and he's got 80%. It was so funny because he was telling me, he said, you know, I really thought about this for a long time, but I'm making a bid to acquire my biggest competitor. And I said, Sasha, you have 80% of the market. Your number one competitor can't be big.

Dean: Right. I can't be big. Right, right, right.

Dan: He's not a big competitor. He's not.

Dean: Right. Not neck and neck.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. But he's a nine fact finder and he's a two quick start.

Dean: Okay. Oh, wow.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. And I, and people, you know, people

Dean: often say as a surveyor that, that makes total sense.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Last thing you need is an innovative surveyor.

Dan: Yeah. Or a nervous, you know, or. No, an anxious surveyor. You know, a distracted surveyor. You know, you don't want any of that. You want.

Dean: Right.

Dan: You know. Yeah. And so it was so funny. We were talking in a workshop where Colby was being talked about and I said, you know, a lot of people have this mistaken idea that the creative people are the quick starts. And I said, I said each profile is completely creative as long as they've done the preparation to start being creative. Said the only difference between, I said, the only difference between Sasha at 9:2 and me at 2:10 is that Sasha has to prepare eight, eight years earlier.

Dean: Right.

Dan: If we're both starting creativity today, Sasha started eight years ago and I just thought of it this morning when I was having breakfast. Yeah. But you know, and there's all sorts of other factors like who, not how and everything that determine whether you're going to be successful. I do think this, I think that quick starts are in the best position to especially long quick starts, nine or 10 are in the best position to immediately take advantage of the who, not how concept because we have no desire to do any of that how stuff.

Dean: Right? That's exactly right. I've Been playing around with the imagine. If you applied yourself as. Parsing out each of the words as one step in the system. And it's really. You know, what I've got so far is the imagine part is the visualizing. Right. Like you can visualize what you're. What you're trying to create. And the if is the. Well, what would have to take place in order for that to actually happen? Like getting clear on the. You know, putting a little almost like creating a place, the blueprint for something and then you. The center of the thing. I'm thinking of it as a progressive tool of trying to figure out how to create a thinking tool out of it. So that's all the. This is. On the theoretical side is the vision and the if. Imagine if. And then you at the center. But on the other side through you is applied. Meaning that you decided, this is what we're gonna do. This is when. This is when it's going to happen. And who's doing it.

Dan: And then yourself.

Dean: Yourself with the space how much your and self. Not yourself, your self. Meaning what is the part of this that only that you can contribute to this, but surrounding yourself with who's that make it all happen. I think there's really something to it, Dan. Yep.

Dan: I'm already seeing it as a tool laid out. It's a little as I'd have to do yourself as one. If I'm going to get it on the page.

Dean: Yeah. No, yourself as one. But I mean, just. That's the way.

Dan: But I would have. I would have imagine first column, I'd have. Yes. On second column, I'd have you third column. I'd have applied as the fourth column. And yourself as the fifth column.

Dean: Right.

Dan: Okay. And then ask a little question underneath each one of those.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know, and first of all, you know, the teachers who told you that they were very good at teaching people how to apply themselves. What they were really weak on was teaching people how to imagine. Yeah.

Dean: The truth. That's right. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. You were missing the part of the educational system that involved imagine. Yeah.

Dean: But I thought, you know, that there's. As I'm thinking it through all, you have a tool for every one of those. You know, imagine with an impact.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: It's a strategy circle, you know, and it's like the. There's really something.

Dan: Well, I think vision capability and reach is. Yeah. Perfect tool. You know, it makes room for everybody who's going to be involved. If each person is just doing the right thing and they're working together. As a team, you know, So I think it's really good.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Anyway, we're past the magic hour. This is a special hurricane. Hurricane edition. Hurricane edition. But got a lot. Lot of interesting areas out of this. But, you know, you know, people. I'm sure people in Florida have a lot of skill of dealing with this. The emergency services and, you know, and every plywood dealer within a thousand miles has got a truck going. Semi trucks going to Florida with plywood. And remember Norm Cunigan? Did you ever meet Norm. He.

Dean: Norm Dunnigan.

Dan: Yeah. Norm Dunnigan from South. South Carolina. Yeah. He's become a good friend. He came up to his workshop in Chicago, and it was right after a real hit that came in on. It didn't hit Florida. It came right and hit South Carolina head on. And I said, norm, you look like a happy man. And he said, well, you know, he said, I got to be really careful, you know, back where I come from. But he said, I have to admit, I truly do love a really good hurricane every once in a while.

Dean: Right?

Dan: Because he got to clean it up. He got this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I'm sure there's. There's new teamwork. You have pancake houses in Florida because they have a whole. They're probably the best organization in America for dealing with.

Dean: That's right. The Waffle House.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, the Waffle House. The Waffle House. Yeah. Yeah. They've got a whole plan, and I bet they were 247 within two hours after the hurricane passed. I bet they were right.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: I bet they had their generator going. They had the meals going. They had the trucks out.

Dean: Yeah, that's it. All right, Dan.

Dan: Okay, well, I will.

Dean: We're. I'll talk to you next. Next week. Yep.

Dan: Yeah. Nope, next week. I'm on the way back from the cottage because we're going up north for Thanksgiving.

Dean: Okay, perfect.

Dan: Canadian Thanksgiving.

Dean: Two weeks.

Dan: Two weeks from now.

Dean: Perfect. I'll be here.

Dan: Okay, bye.

Dean: Thanks, dad. Bye.