Dissecting the Fabric of Time, Commerce, and Personal Growth

Dean: Welcome to Cloudlandia. Hello there, Mr. Sullivan.

Dan: Mr. Jackson. You know, your Cloudlandia announcer who welcomes us to the call always promises there's going to be others, but there never is. There's just one.

Dean: Just us. We're waiting for others to join.

Dan: Yeah, I am other. We're waiting for others to catch up.

Dean: That's exactly right. Well, how did you.

Dan: How do you feel?

Dean: You're an hour short of. Yeah.

Dan: Today.

Dean: I don't like this.

Dan: I've been confused about five times so far today.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: Part of the reason is my watch and my cell phone are in another time zone, and that's reflected. But my computer is still. Still in Toronto.

Dean: Oh, my goodness. That's so funny. Are you in Chicago right now?

Dan: Oh, got it.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: Yeah. It's a little fu. From winter. You know, you get this little kick.

Dean: Not only that, I'm thinking, okay, I'll leave, but I'm taking an hour with me.

Dan: Yeah, I mean, go ahead.

Dean: I was gonna say we can't complain because we got an extra day this year. We got 24 extra hours, so I guess we'll just deduct it from that surplus.

Dan: But that's in the past.

Dean: And that is in the past.

Dan: That's right. You know, I haven't really studied where that came from, but I think it has to do with farming.

Dean: Daylight savings. Yeah. I think it was too. Absolutely. To extend harvest times in the summer, you know.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Work more.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: I thought we were trying to get rid of it.

Dan: Who's we?

Dean: As a. You know, that's the inclusive version of they. I thought they were trying.

Dan: We.

Dean: I thought we tried to get rid of it.

Dan: Yeah. No, I haven't. I haven't really devoted an hour and a minute of time to that particular project.

Dean: I know Florida is. I know Florida is like Arizona considering staying on daylight savings time at all times. And that's. And I think there were a lot of states that were looking to do that. And I thought, oh, boy, what a. What a mess that would be. It's already enough of a nuisance that Arizona doesn't participate.

Dan: You know, I would vote for keeping it.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know why? Because it's quirky.

Dean: It is a little bit quirky. And you know what? For me in Florida.

Dan: And I like quirkiness and other people. So why wouldn't I like quirky in the time system?

Dean: Well, you know, it's the only way that I mark the season changes that for me is like the transition into, you know, spring, summer, and then I know when we get to daylight savings. We get fall and winter. That's the only thing. It gets darker earlier.

Dan: Yeah. It's really interesting because when this is. I'm changing the context here, but it has to do with weights and measurements. You know, the metric system is a French creation. It was created, I think, during Napoleon's reign. And, you know, he tried to standardize in uniform and make Europe uniform because he wanted to be emperor of Europe, you know, and then emperor of the world. You know, folks like him sort of have those type of ambitions. And so up until then, you know, you had what is commonly called the imperial system of measurements in. In the uk, Great Britain, you know, pounds and inches and miles, you know, and, you know, and Fahrenheit, you know, was the measurement measured. And then, you know, Europe adapted the metric system. And. But once Brexit happened, this is in 2016, the merchants were permitted to go back to the imperial system for weights in stores.

Dean: Oh, wow.

Dan: Grocery stores. Yeah. But the bureaucrats who run the, you know, who run the system in Britain. So you have this sort of. I think it's a bit of an entrepreneurial versus bureaucratic standoff. And so it's a real mishmash in Great Britain now. And I kind of like that because almost everything else about Great Britain is a mishmash.

Dean: I think that's so funny. You know, it's like the.

Dan: I like mishmashes. It's my favorite kind of food is a mishmash.

Dean: There was a Saturday Night Live skit where the. They were, you know, they were founding settlers, founding the United States and deciding, you know, the guy was saying how we would adopt a system of measurements that would be, you know, there'd be one foot is the thing, and they'll be three feet in a yard. And the whole, you know, just made no sense because the metric system is such an easier system. You know, how many feet in a mile? And he was saying nobody knows how many feet.

Dan: You know, why it'll, you know, why it'll never happen in the United States. So it's because of sports.

Dean: Oh, yeah.

Dan: 100 yards for football, 100 yards. A 350 foot home run. Now seven foot center.

Dean: Yeah, exactly. Right, right, right.

Dan: Yeah. But in Toronto. Well, they try to impose it on the sports reporting in Toronto, but nobody pays any attention to. It knows, you know, I mean, I've never switched over. I've been in Toronto for 50.

Dean: Well, listen, 1973, I think, is when the die right System International started.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: So, you know, I got first grade, was Imperial, second grade was si. So we. I've been learning, you know, metrics since second grade, but I still think in Imperial, I mean, it's so funny. We're always doing the conversion, you know.

Dan: Yeah. And it's especially scary when it comes to temperature because zero really means something in Fahrenheit, but it's, you know, it's sort of wishy washy. And in metric, zero is like 32. 32 degrees.

Dean: Yeah, right, exactly.

Dan: Yeah. You know, 32 degrees. The only place where it meets is 40 degrees -40 degrees.

Dean: So it's exactly the same.

Dan: Yeah. But who wants to have that experience?

Dean: Oh, man, that's so funny. So when is your next Buenos Aires?

Dan: Sure, it'll be Saturday. Two weeks. So two weeks from yesterday. From yesterday. And this is our fourth and this may be then the last quick trip and probably be six months. Six months. Now we'll do six months and then probably, depending on how it shows up, six months from now. I'm talking about stem cell hair, stem cell treatments.

Dean: And how are you feeling? Are you starting the new.

Dan: I'm feeling great. I'm feeling. Yeah, I feel great. Yeah. The biggest thing is there's still soreness in my knee and. But I feel very confident about it, you know, I mean, before there was soreness in my knee and I wasn't feeling confident because barring any kind of therapy, it was going to get more sore in the future. And I have a definite confidence that'll be less and less until the soreness disappears, you know, because the cartilage is definitely regrowing.

Dean: I was going to say, is there evidence? Like, do they quantitatively measure the.

Dan: Yeah, you do it with an mri. The MRI can show what it was. And what I learned is that it doesn't layer from bottom to top like the canoe cartilage. This is exactly my cartilage that I lost in. Through an operation. Through an accident. In an operation in 1975. So long time ago. And so in those days they just, you know, it was broken, it was torn, so they cut it out, you know.

Dean: Yeah, don't need that anymore.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They would glue it back together. Now they have a surgical glue now that they could glue it back together. But the. But what it does, it comes in vertically, so it's this constant extension. Like it's. Okay, it's a half of an inch and then it's an inch. Yeah. And it's very interesting how it comes in. It comes in sideways. It doesn't come in, you know, it doesn't come that you establish a base and then it builds on the base.

Dean: Right.

Dan: So it's anyway. But I can feel the difference going up and down stairs. That's where my, you know, my daily measurement is really that more and more I'm walking up and down stairs normally.

Dean: Yeah. Oh, that's great.

Dan: Yeah. But the biggest thing is the brain stuff. Because they have an iv, you can't inject things into the brain. You have to. The thing called Lympovich, create a pathway into your brain. So you have the lymphocytes one day and then two days later, the they, they put an IV in and the cells are actually custom designed for the brain. And so they, once they get into your blood system, they go automatically through the, the new passageway that the lymphocytes have created and then they go into your brain. But I really notice in my EEG tests and then neurofeedback program that I'm in that my concentration, my focus, I, you know, not being distracted is improving enormously.

Dean: Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, that's awesome.

Dan: So you've, for example, we're, we're, you know, we're 13 minutes into the podcast and not once have I gotten that I'm talking to you.

Dean: Hey, there we go. I like that. That's good news.

Dan: Yeah, you, you know, you count your progress where you find it.

Dean: Yeah, that's so funny. So I have something for us to, to look at neck for next time. There's. I was talking with someone and they were sharing with me this guy Janis Varoufakis. Do you know him? Have you heard of him?

Dan: Yeah, I think I have heard the name, but I'm trying to think where.

Dean: So he's just sent me a video called Capitalism has mutated into something Worse. And he's talking about this, you know, cloud, you know, cloud migration or whatever, and how those things are, you know, really owning our. Well, I don't know enough to say. I just, I was wondering if you had heard about him. But essentially saying companies like Amazon, like these big companies are fiefdoms that control our, you know, the way we see things, like, you know, your Amazon store, for instance, when you go to Amazon is very different than my Amazon store, you know, based on everything that I. All my, all the data that they have about me kind of thing. You know, when it used to be in. On the mainland, when you would go to downtown or you'd go to the shopping area, you'd have all the stores. Everybody sees the same. Everybody sees the same thing. It's more of an equal landscape sort of thing. But now, you know, there's advantage in knowing, you know, and having this established, you know, data that everybody, that's what they really have is access to, you know, amazing amounts of data. So this cloud, the cloud is really changing who's winning in the, you know, in, even in a global sense about borders and everything don't really matter anymore. It's not about that. I wonder if that kind of resonates with what, you know, Peter Zion is saying.

Dan: But yeah, I think Peter Zion saying exactly the opposite.

Dean: Okay. That's why I'm very curious. Right,

Dan: yeah. He's saying borders matter more than ever. Okay. Because of transportation. Okay. So Amazon, you can do anything with Amazon, but it's got to be transported.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: And transportation is the great constraint, you know, and so, for example, one of the problems that Amazon has with prime is traffic congestion in cities, you know, so that their promise that we can deliver it in, you know, if you order this morning, you'll have it by noon.

Dean: Yeah, I've had that happen.

Dan: Traffic permits.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And then there's the, the labor costs of actually finding drivers that'll do this, you know, for more than just a short period of time. So you always have to be thinking of the labor costs and. Yeah, so. So my sense is, yeah, he's of a school, whoever this man is, I am suspecting that it's a man. And.

Dean: Yeah, yeah, he is. I gotta see it.

Dan: Does he identify? Does he identify as a man? I mean.

Dean: Yes, I think so.

Dan: Okay. Anyway. And yeah, it's the same thing. Capitalism doesn't really change. It simply changes the environment, the environments in which capitalism is being used. Because it's really a methodology for growth. You know, capitalism is, you know, first of all, it's about pricing and Amazon are the great price competitors in the world. I mean, that's, they introduced a whole new way that, you know, whatever it was, the total cost of getting it to you and the price you had to pay, they could pretty well out compete anyone else. That's capital. That's capitalism. You know, and they're moving property, you know, they're moving property from. You know, actually Amazon never owns any property. You know, they.

Dean: Yeah. Which is really, unless they do create or white label or do things themselves, they're pretty robust at that. That's been one of the things that, that's been one of the things that they have as an advantage, is that they create their own brand of stuff that they see things that are, you know, new Products or new things that are selling and then they create their own version of it or white label their own version of it, you know, and it's very interesting.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, we've had. Not like a product per se, but we've had a continual conversation with Amazon because with the three best selling books that we did with Ben Hardy, the book comes out on a Monday and by Friday there's another book called who not how and it's the summary of who not How. And you know, you can kind of create a summary of any book now with artificial intelligence in about 10 seconds, you know, 10 seconds. And then there. So our book will be listed on Kindle and you know, and, and then immediately within a month you'll have a first one in five days. But in a month, if it's really selling, you might have seven versions of Summary of who not How. And we said, you know, this is kind of tawdry. You know, we talk to them and we've had about five of them, five or six of them taken down because it's too close to our stuff. It's so close, you know. Yeah, but that.

Dean: And did you register the trademark on who not How?

Dan: Yeah, that's. And that's where we get them. That's where we get them with. Because you can't, you can't, you don't have exclusive control over a book title. You can have 10 books with, with, you know, with, you know, by the same name. There could be 10 books out there called who not how, but you can't have Ben Hardy. And what they were doing, they had, you know, summary, you know, who not how, but by Dan Sullivan and Ben Hardy. Well, that, that you're crossing the line there, you know. Right. You know, and it's like flies and mosquitoes, you know, you just make sure you have good screens, you know, and you make sure you close the door and everything. But it's a constant, it's a constant thing. But, you know, and maybe it does us good. I don't know if it does as good. Somebody buys the summary and then they say, hey, I better read the book, you know, so I don't know, but, but it's no different from knockoff Rolexes in Hong Kong.

Dean: Yeah, I see what I'm looking at. The thing now, the one right after it is it's not the how or the what but the who. Succeed by surrounding yourself with. Yeah, I mean, that's.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, it's. Babs gets angry at it. I just considered it as you know, it's like. It's mosquito season, you know.

Dean: Yeah, right, right. Oh, there's another one. There's another one.

Dan: Yeah. But I would say capitalism is no different now than it was in. In the marketplace of Rome. And. But it changes its methods. I mean, it changes its presentation. It changes. But this thing about capitalism is changing. Let's create conscious capitalism. Let's create humane. There's just capitalism and there's somebody's emotional response to it.

Dean: Right? Yeah, yeah, that's. It just. It's pretty.

Dan: I'm. Yeah. I mean, Peter Zion. I mean, I've read so much Peter Zion that I could sort of tell, you know, one thing we know is that the United States is better at it than any other country, which means that it's not universal.

Dean: I think it's like, it's very. It's really interesting. I watched some of his. I watched some of his videos, which I always find insightful, and I'm always surprised that, you know, he gets three or four hundred thousand people a day watching his dispatch patches. You know, they're always. It's really well done. He's good at articulating things, and it's fascinating to me.

Dan: It almost makes you want to go to Colorado too, right?

Dean: Isn't it? Yeah, it's beautiful, right? I mean, it's almost.

Dan: Yeah, he says, yeah, he says, yeah, I. I'm very easily Communicating to you from 13, 000ft, everything, which is kind of said. You must be really in good shape, you know.

Dean: Yeah, exactly.

Dan: So, yeah, but he's fairly. He's faster responding than anyone else in the world. An event happens on Tuesday, and by Thursday, he's got an explanation for why it's happening. Yeah, he's really remarkable. He's. In my lifetime, I've never come across anyone like him.

Dean: Yeah, it's really like I'm. It's. It seems like such a macro level view of things that I'm always, you know, I'm kind of fascinated. Why you're so fascinated with this. Like, I mean, when you've read the book, you said like seven times or something. I mean.

Dan: Well, his latest book. Yeah, Seven Times complete.

Dean: Yeah, seven Times complete.

Dan: Yeah. And, you know, and what I'm looking for is there, you know, with anything, when I read them, is there sort of a deeper level that he doesn't go into? Or. And so what I did is I just came out with my latest book, which is the Great Meltdown, you know, and then I explained that wherever you are on the planet, you're constrained by the cost of money, the cost of energy, the cost of labor and the cost of transportation. And no two places are equal in risk in relationship to those four constraints. And the US is just that, keeping those four costs the lowest of historically, I mean, right back to the beginning, they've just been better for all sorts of lucky reasons. Mainly because their geography. Geography is so good. I mean, we talked about Florida, that Florida is proof that God loves real estate agents in the state of Florida. Because you have on the east coast, you have three. Three waterfront.

Dean: That's right, exactly. The ocean side and two intercoastals. And same all the way. Yeah, the same all the way up the Gulf too.

Dan: Yeah, the Gulf. It goes all the way to Texas, I think, and north of Florida, it goes all the way to Virginia, I think Virginia or Maryland, it's still, you know, the intercool. And what it does is it prevents large storms from actually hitting the mainland because that buffer zone of the intercoastal, you know, just stops big waves. It stops everything. So. Yeah, yeah. So any. Anyway, I mean, you don't really have to go into the Atlantic Ocean very much once you start, if you're taking a boat trip, private boat trip down east coast. If you start at Virginia.

Dean: Really go down the intercoastal all the way.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: Start in Annapolis.

Dan: Even proves that God favors.

Dean: Oh, that's so funny.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Well.

Dan: But you know, people are always trying to create a standardized global version of reality. You know, that's been happening forever. But those four costs means there can be no standardization because, I mean, it's different in. Or it's different where you live than it is in Tampa.

Dean: Yeah, it's really interesting. I guess there's regional, like when you think about. It's transferable on every level. Right. Like the whole. Because the cost of transportation, you know, has, you know, the further away, more remote you are, the more it costs to get something to you. And so even if I think now I see kind of the thing that you're talking about, like if you go to a place where the labor costs are lower, perhaps you've got a balance with the cost of transporting the reduced goods that you've done back to where they're going to sell. So it all has to balance out. Yeah.

Dan: Well, I mean, you can take the huge migration from New York, you know, from New York State to Florida and you know, people explain it politically and everything, but just compare the four melt costs between. The cost of money is lower in Florida. The cost of energy is Lower in Florida, labor and transportation, the costs are lower. And I mean, there's a lot of political issues that make things expensive or inexpensive. But, you know. Yeah, I mean, that, for example, the court case where Trump was found guilty, you know, two, three weeks ago for something that's an antiquated law from 150 years ago, that's never been inflicted on anybody, that in a business negotiation, he said his company was worth 1.2 billion, and it turned out it was only 800 million. And that's called negotiation.

Dean: Right, right, right.

Dan: I mean, market value.

Dean: Right.

Dan: That's market value.

Dean: And something is only worth what someone willing to pay.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. And they said, well, this is fraud. But nobody was harmed. You know, nobody like any negotiation, nobody was harmed. You agree on a price, and, you know, the banks made money, the other side made money. He made money. And, well, the word is going out now. Don't invest in New York. Don't do business in New York. I mean, the moment that hits. And. But the governor said, well, that's not what we meant by it. I'm so sorry.

Dean: Oh, boy.

Dan: The horse is out of the barn, you know.

Dean: Yeah, right. I mean, that's pretty crazy. The. I saw Kevin o' Leary was talking about just that.

Dan: That he was saying he's having some good weeks right now.

Dean: Yeah. That's the death knell for a New York investment. It's. Nobody's gonna do anything there. That's crazy.

Dan: So your meld class just went through the roof just as a result of that.

Dean: Yeah, this is. That's pretty wild. And so in big news, we saw Super Tuesday last week, and Haley's out, but not endorsing Trump. That's. She's not throwing. Not. Not, you know, not.

Dan: Yeah, well, she's like the. The warrior in. Yeah, she does. Yeah. I don't have legs and arms left, but these are mere flesh wounds.

Dean: That's right. I could still bite you. I could bite your kneecap ye.

Dan: For the life of me, I don't know what her game plan was because, I mean, she didn't do him any harm, but I just don't know, you know, what her gain was in doing what she did do it right.

Dean: Did you?

Dan: I think she was bad. She was betting that the court system is going to stop him from being the nominee and that she would.

Dean: I was just gonna say that was. I thought that that's her game plan is hang in there. She's just the last one standing at the end.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: If Trump does get, you know, taken off the. Or disqualified or whatever. Which by the way, what do you think the likelihood of that is? 0.0 likelihood. Okay so.

Dan: And I felt especially after the Supreme Court case last week where it came up because of the Colorado.

Dean: Yeah. So the states can't take them off. Right.

Dan: Yeah. And the nine Supreme Court Justice. It was nine to nothing. It said no unanimous. I mean you can't run a Rick. You can't run a country this way and you can't have 50 states having different rules about who can run for.

Dean: Right, exactly.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: That's shenanigans.

Dan: But that's what the Supreme Court's for, you know that's in the Constitution. Yeah. And yeah. But I don't really know. I mean maybe she'll get a talk show on, you know but you know, I can't figure out where what her future is based on this performance, you know.

Dean: Right.

Dan: So. Yeah, but I mean. Yeah, no, you know politics is an entrepreneurial. It's an entrepreneurial business. You know, you know there's clear cut winners and losers and she's a loser right now.

Dean: Right. It's very. I'm interested to see what the you know, the RFK effect here. What. What's that's gonna. Who's that's going to affect more? Do you know what the projection is or who. Who is that gonna hurt more?

Dan: Yeah, it's hard to say. You don't really know. I mean I saw him at. Because Joe Polish had him at.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Genius. And you know, I mean a lot of it they were talking. They weren't talking about politics.

Dean: No.

Dan: For president. And then we went to dinner. We went to dinner at somebody's house in Scottsdale and I was kind of say he's really sort of an ideal candidate for the president of a country that no longer exists. Like if he had run in the 70s or 80s.

Dean: Right.

Dan: Probably he would have led what he would have led the Democratic Party. You know, I mean he would have, he would have made it. But I don't think the country exists anymore that would elect him president. But you know, if he got 3 or 4% more of one party's voters then he makes a big difference.

Dean: That's what I meant. He's like the, he's like the green box in on the roulette wheel. You know that he's the. The little edge that's gonna. The wild card in this that is. Could make. It's not just black and red. It's not 50, 50. It's. He's a viable third party but. And that's. It's unchanged. I mean, it's funny because we're definitely a three party country in a two party system. Really. You know, that's the thing.

Dan: Yeah. I mean, it's made a difference. It's made a difference in some elections, like 2000. Well, yeah. Ross Perot got Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton would not have gotten elected. But the other one is Gore lost because there were 50,000 Ralph Nader votes in Florida. That's big. I mean, he lost by 500. He lost by 500. He never brought. That was never brought up, you know. Well, it was the hanging hating Chad.

Dean: Hanging chads. That's right.

Dan: That is so funny. I've got some friends named Chad. I've got friends named Chad. I don't want a couple. I don't want to hang. I don't want to hang any of my friends who are named Chad, you know.

Dean: Which one do you want? Willard, Sid or Jenkins?

Dan: Yeah, Chad Johnson's one of our coaches, you know.

Dean: Oh, there you go. Yeah.

Dan: I've never had so many Chads in my life.

Dean: That's funny. It's not an. It's not a common name either, I think.

Dan: No, but, but it's. It must be contagious.

Dean: Yeah. As I go through, I'm realizing Dean's not as common as you might think either.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. And no, nobody gets called Bob or Tom or anything like that anymore. You know. Exactly. Exotic names and. Yeah. And. Yeah. So anyway. But. Yeah, and so the other problem was that with Gore, nobody brought this up, but he lost Tennessee, his home state. I mean, even his home state didn't put. Yeah, so there was a, you know, but it's been more recently, although in 1948, I think there were four. Four people who got significant votes. Truman sitting president one. But he didn't win with 50%. He went, you know, 40, 46. Yeah. You know, so. Yeah, Well, I don't think the third party can ever win unless it's replaced one of the. Unless it's replacing the. One of the existing parties, you know.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: And that hasn't happened since the 1800s. Right. Yeah.

Dean: Did you watch the State of the Union?

Dan: No, I don't watch television.

Dean: No. Okay, but I meant the. Whether you saw the highlights or the summary or any highlights of it, I haven't had a chance yet to even see.

Dan: I mean, what I saw is I've seen angry old people talking to themselves on the street.

Dean: Right, exactly. And that's a video that very cleverly showed that he's given the same speech four times in a row. You know, you get the same exact talking points. And it was so funny. They'd show it from, you know, from 2000 and then they'd show this year, you know, saying exactly the same, the same lines. And it's just, it was pretty funny, actually. I was amazed. There was. I love.

Dan: Well, did you ever. When Disneyland, California, Disney, Disneyland opened up, they had recreations, you know, they were in plastic or rubber form of Abraham Lincoln and you know, George Washington and that.

Dean: Yeah. The hall presidents. Right.

Dan: But their, you know, their arms moved and their lips moved because they had, they had little tubes that had fluid in them and you know, it would, they would manipulate the tubes, you know, and their hands would move and they didn't show this at the State of the Union, but were there a lot of those little hoses coming up behind him? I don't know. Watch joe move.

Dean: Watch joe. He looks so lifelike.

Dan: It's really, it's really the closest I've seen in, you know, a high stakes election. President of the United States is as high as it gets, where it's like the emperor's new clothes, you know.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Nobody wants to mention that he's really, you know, this is the leader of the free world and say, geez, you know, oh man, you know. Yeah. You know, but, you know, you know, you root for the home team, whoever the captain, you know, regardless of who the captain is, you know, so. Yeah, anyway. But yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting. But, you know, somebody was saying a longtime Canadian member of the strategic coach, goes back to the 80s actually. And I had breakfast with him last and he says, you know, I just, you know, you know, he says, I know Biden's bad, but I just can't, you know, I just can't stomach the fact that we would have Trump again. There's something about it. And you know, he was going on for about five, 10 minutes. And I've had other situations in Toronto where Canadians are voicing their displeasure. And I said, you know, I read the US Constitution once a year. It doesn't take long to read. It's only typewritten. It's about 27 pages. You know, most of it's just, you know, it's a set of rules, you know, you know, and, and I said, nowhere in the US Constitution does it say that American politics have to be pleasing to Canadians any more than New

Dean: guinea politics have to be pleasing. Right.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can be on the happiest, can be. It matters not at all.

Dean: That's so funny. Yeah. I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. I mean, certainly it's going to be an amazing six months or whatever we've got.

Dan: Oh, yeah. No, if you just say it's not politics, it's entertainment.

Dean: Yeah, exactly.

Dan: Right. Pretty good entertainment. Know.

Dean: Yeah. Huh. Switching topics here, I was. I've mentioned I've been playing around with the. With the Atoms app on the.

Dan: Yeah. Did you get the connector for the.

Dean: I did, I got that. And on Monday, I need to connect with the gentleman that sent it to me. Yeah. Because. Yeah. I need to figure out how to.

Dan: Yeah. I explained in my email that, yeah, it's done in filemaker, which no longer exists, so it's hard to transport it. It's hard to.

Dean: So he offered to.

Dan: Yeah, it's hard to transport something that no longer exists.

Dean: Right, exactly. But he offered to help me, walk me through it. So I'm gonna pick him up on that.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Because I. I do want to. I do want to try it, but it's been very interesting to watch this just the way this. Clear. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: It's just. It's so satisfying to see. I've had, you know, it shows. I've got 10 reps down of my habit of waking up and drinking 500ml of water first thing. So you can stack. I'm looking, you know, to stack all these things. It's been. This was a great week. I've been working with J.J. virgin, you

Dan: know, we got your. We got your phone message, you know.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

Dean: I put together a little.

Dan: Dean, you have witnesses now.

Dean: Well, that's exactly it. Right? It's. I said to Joe, like, well, behind the scenes, while we were in Palm beach, there was so much kind of rallying and, you know, going around in the most supportive way possible for, you know, to help me get on track, you know, weight wise, health wise. And, you know, Joe Polish has been just above and beyond, you know, in orchestrating and, you know, organizing all of this. I mentioned last week, you know, he came and spent a few days with me and really helped me get things on track. And I've been working with jj. So, you know, this was my first week. You know, Joe left last Saturday, so this was my first week with jj. But having the daily accountability and systems around, you know, what I'm doing, it's certainly a who, not how type of thing is really, you know, the importance of having a who that's kind of on board and. And guiding things. But I get into this nice. I'm accountable for in. The more I send JJ the, you know, the daily story of yesterday kind of thing with. She's got me hooked up on a chronometer app which basically tracks my macros, the protein, carbs, fat, and calories of everything that I eat. She's helping with my, you know, menu selection and all of this. So in the morning, after I drink my 500ml of water, I weigh every day. I take a picture of the. Of the screen.

Dan: Scale.

Dean: Scale. Yes, exactly. And then I send her my aura results for my sleep and readiness and yesterday's activity and our goal. You know, I was on average when we were looking at it before, I would average, you know, 2500 to 4000 steps a day would probably be the average with, you know, probably 3,000 plus 3,200, the kind of median of.

Dan: Of what.

Dean: How many steps I would get in a day. So we've set now 4,000 is the baseline, the minimum steps that I get every day. And so I send her that activity to show what that is, and then my chronometer. And she's got me focused on protein first. Eating my, you know, getting, you know, almost 150 grams of protein per day, which is really. It's a lot. I mean, that's. It's. I'm never hungry. I'm never hungry. And it's almost like getting into the routine of trying to lead. Lead with that and stay well.

Dan: It's new. I mean, your body knows when it's had the necessary nutrition, and protein is the champ for giving nutrition.

Dean: Absolutely.

Dan: Complex, complex carbs. And, you know, and yeah, I mean, you can, you know, you can eat 5,000 calories of simple carbs and you feel hungry. Yeah.

Dean: So this, you know, this target, so.

Dan: And plus water make. Water makes a big difference.

Dean: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So it's been great. So the we, you know, tomorrow will be the, you know, the kind of week on week weigh in. But I'm already down like three and a half pounds from. So almost 1% of. That's the target, I guess, is 1% of body weight per week is a good to keep on. And you're just getting in the habit and the routine and, you know, 100

Dan: weeks you'll be in the cloud.

Dean: That's exactly right. That's the goal, dan. By my sixth birthday, you know, because I'm 57 right now, you'll be 80. I'll be 58 in May.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: And so, yeah, so, yeah, certainly taking this long term view of by my.

Dan: Well, it's habits too. I mean.

Dean: Yes. That's all it is.

Dan: The only thing, you know, one I was thinking because I knew we'd probably talk about this topic today, but I was thinking about just looking at habits as reality and they're either working for you or they're working against you. And that.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: You know, that's not an opinion. I mean, you know, it's, it's just that you can tell whether the habits are supportive or not supportive. And the other thing I was thinking about the gap and the gain and I think that if you just think in terms of replacing bad habits with good habits. Yeah. You stay in the gain.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: And I think the gap is that you need to be penalized for your bad habits. You know, I think there's an internal thing, you know, that you should feel guilty, you should feel ashamed about your bad habits. I said they're just habits and.

Dean: Right.

Dan: They're just. Exactly.

Dean: And that's, and so this really, this thing like looking at this week here and I think that I had lunch with Liora Weinstein yesterday, went over to the Four Seasons in Orlando. We had a nice three and a half hour lunch and this was a

Dan: lot of what we mean. Mr. Good. Good at everything.

Dean: Mr. It's so, it's almost unfair, isn't it? Yeah. The guy's just so smart and everything.

Dan: Right.

Dean: But we had some, we had some great conversations and yeah, this was, you know, the fact that there's nothing else you can do. But what I'm doing habitually on a daily basis, that's the only path. It's not, that's the thing is there's no, it's not like this monumental effort because it's a big mountain to climb. You know, though to get to the, the top of, you know, mount 100 pounds or whatever, you know, the ultimate benchmark is. But to climb to the top of that mountain just requires that you've got to take steps every day. You, there's no possible way to get to the top in one day and

Dan: that's where nobody gets more and nobody gets more than one day every 24 hours.

Dean: That's exactly right. So having that benchmark of 1%, 1% a week as is what, what you can safely and consistently lose is just that it's just stacking those things. And a day, a week is the perfect, I think amount unit of measurement because it's, you can't really, that's the most important more than the daily even, you know, like the variation in one day, it's more important over. Over a week that you take that. So that's all I'm focused on, is the week. And we're already at the routine. I've already got. And I'm very comfortable with consistency and habit. So I don't need a lot of variety in things. If I find certain things, we've got now some meal combinations that. That really work for me. And if I'm. If I can just, you know, stay on that track and continue to have the accountability, it's. I think it's an inevitability. You know, it's just the watching it happen.

Dan: Well, it's like you're eight profit activators. I mean, just moving that to another thing. I mean, if you're doing all eight and they're all contributing to a profit, it strikes me there's no. There's nothing to fix.

Dean: Right, exactly. Oh, so funny. Right? So, yeah, it's so funny. I mean, just identifying that. The, you know, the key thing for me is just to continue raising the benchmark.

Dan: Right.

Dean: Like grazing my. From 4,000 to 5,000 steps, the minimum on my way to 10,000, you know.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: You measure steps, or does that matter to you?

Dan: I mean, it's not my main focus, but if I get the right number of steps, I get a high 90s on my activity, you know, and every, you know, every quarter or so, I raise the number. You know, the stuff. So I do. Right now I probably average around 6 or 7,000. And. Yeah. And I've done 10, you know, on some days, you know, when it's kind of walking Nature day, I'll get more than that, you know, but I'm doing a lot of things. Like, my big thing that I've been working on for four months is that I never get in trouble with my meals. I get in trouble with snacking between meals. And so I've eliminated that and I'm down, you know, five or six pounds just by doing that.

Dean: Wow.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, anyway, first of all, kudos to just, you know, it really strikes me that Dean Jackson doesn't do anything and stick with it unless it makes intellectual sense.

Dean: That's true, probably. Yeah.

Dan: That. No, I mean, Yeah. I mean, unless. I mean, you know, your habits and, you know, your. We all have a measurement system on what constitutes progress. Yes. And my sense is until you get the way of something you can do every day.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: That is intellectually satisfying. You don't do it.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And I think a lot of people Try to make it emotional. Emotional, you know, that. You know, and everything, but you can't sustain it.

Dean: And even if it is, even if you get to the point, I agree with you 100%, by the way. I don't perceive it as emotional, but, you know, that often that's, you know, well, what's the cause of this kind of thing, you know. Yeah. But the reality is that even if it were to uncover an emotional issue, that still requires then that intellectually you have to figure out what's the mechanics of what needs to actually happen. You know, it's like getting to the bottom of an emotional issue isn't on its own going to solve the problem the same way that figuring out the mechanics of what actually needs to happen happen. Yeah, that's really the. That's really the bottom line. But I'm very encouraged. This feels like a very different level of, you know, systemic change that's happening here.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's a process, you know, Process consists of, you know, and you keep it. Every time I talk to you, you're adding some new habit to it. So. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. And my sense is that once you get the momentum of 10 good habits, you're motivated to have 20 good habits. I agree.

Dean: 100%. Yeah, I agree. Because that then becomes a great game, you know, that's the. I love to gamify things. That keeps us interested, you know.

Dan: Okay, I have a meeting in five minutes with Daniel White. Okay. Who's staying with us in Chicago.

Dean: Awesome.

Dan: So. But I'll be. I have you in my calendar for next Sunday, so. Oh, okay. I'm gonna be in Toronto next Sunday.

Dean: You are going to be. Because on my calendar it says no Dan podcast.

Dan: Yeah, but we. But I will be there.

Dean: Okay, perfect.

Dan: And in the same time zone.

Dean: Okay, perfect. Okay, thanks, Dan.

Dan: Okay, bye.

Dean: Bye.