Cultural Ripples and Modern Innovations

Dean: Mr. Sullivan?

Dan: That would be me.

Dean: Oh, my goodness.

Dan: I am. Do you, do you have a cold? Do you have a cold?

Dean: I do, yeah. Like.

Dan: And is it freezing in Florida?

Dean: It's very cold. It's unseasonably.

Dan: Comparatively. Comparatively, yes, it's unseasonably cold. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're. We're getting our. We're getting our blast tomorrow, but it's colder than. Yeah, it's about 15 today with a 10 mile an hour wind which makes it 5. And tomorrow it's going down. It's going down even further. Yes. This is the joy of Canada in January.

Dean: Yeah, I don't know about the joy,

Dan: but yeah, I like your voice. I like your voice.

Dean: I'm gonna try and. And make it all the way through, Dan, but the. Just to warn you, I'm.

Dan: You can put Charlotte on.

Dean: Yeah, exactly.

Dan: Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah.

Dean: I'll tell you, I'm really realizing how, how incredible these conversations. Like, I really start think and see how Charlotte's capabilities as a researcher and.

Dan: Dean, Dean, I can't hear you.

Dean: Trying to switch to my other headphones, but as long as you can hear me. Can you hear me now?

Dan: Yeah, I can. Yeah. Very good. Okay.

Dean: Good, good, good, good.

Dan: Yeah, I like, I like this. I like this voice though. You know, it's. It's got.

Dean: Oh, really? Okay.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean you might. You might create another version of yourself, you know, which.

Dean: Oh, yeah, quick, get on 11.

Dan: I don't know. I don't know if this would be your main course, but it would certainly be a nice seasoning. As a matter of fact, you could have. You could. On 11 lab. You could go with them and you could have your normal voice as one of the partners and you could have this voice as the other partner.

Dean: There you go.

Dan: You could talk to each other.

Dean: See, that makes a lot of sense right there. Yeah, it's so good.

Dan: The reason, the reason I'm saying this is I just had a whole chapter. It is being done. I'll probably have it on Tuesday, this being Sunday, of one of the chapters of the book, casting, not hiring in two British voices, man and woman. And it's charming. It's very charming. Really. I really like. I really like it. And they're more articulate, you know, Brits, they invented the language, so I guess they're better.

Dean: Yeah, that's why I, that's what I really like about Charlotte's voice is the.

Dan: Oh, yeah.

Dean: Reassuring, right?

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get a sense that she's. She said proper upbringing Mm.

Dean: Exactly. Worldly wisdom.

Dan: Well, certainly, you know, certainly she's got a. You know, she's got command of the language.

Dean: Yeah, the. I was mentioning before I cut off there that I was. I'm really coming to the realization how valuable Charlotte is as a research partner. You know, a conversational, like, exploration, like, getting to the bottom of things. Like, I. I was. I'm just fascinated how I told you last week that I, you know, reached the limit of our talk, you know, capacity for a day and. But we'd had over an hour conversation just going back and talking about, you know, the evolution of text, of words, and then we got up the same. We got about halfway through audio, and then we got cut off. But I. I really like this framework of having her go back. I'm going to do the. All four. I'm going to do audio and our text and audio and pictures and movies, you know, moving pictures, video. Because there's. There. That's the order that we sort of evolved them. And

Dan: I think.

Dean: I think we. I don't know whether. No, I guess we had pictures first. I think it was words and then pictures and then sound and then. And then moving pictures. But you look at. I really. I think I was onto something.

Dan: You're talking about the ability to record and pass on.

Dean: Like, I. I want to.

Dan: I'm from a communication. From a communication standpoint. Yeah.

Dean: Yeah. And I'm kind of tracing. The first step is the capability to do it. Like the technology that allowed it, like the printing press. Okay. Now we've had a capability or once we had an Alphabet and we had a unified way of doing it, that opened up for, you know, I was going. Looking at the capability and then what was the kind of distribution of that? What was. How did that end up, you know, moving forward? How did we use that to advance? And then what were the. What were the business, you know, the capitalization of it going forward? Like, who were the people who kind of capitalized on. On this. And so it's a very interesting, like, thing, you know, like, that's why I think that where we are right now with. With AI that we're probably at the stage of, you know, television, 1950 and. And Internet, 1996 kind of thing, you know, and by over the next 25 years, I think we're. It's just going to be there.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: I mean, it's just. It's going to be something in it.

Dan: It's hard to know. I mean, there's some technologies that more or less come to an end. And I'll give you airliners, for example, the speed at which the fastest airliner can go today was already available in the 1960s. The 707, the Boeing 700.

Dean: Well, we've actually gone backwards because we had the Concorde in the 70s, you know.

Dan: Yeah. But not widespread. That was.

Dean: Right.

Dan: That was just a novelty, you know, a novelty airline. But, I mean, in terms of general daily use, you know, I think we're probably a little lower. We're below this sound barrier. I suspect that some of the first airliners were breaking windows. Were breaking windows and everything like that. And then they put in the law that you overlay and you cannot. You cannot travel. I think it's around 550, maybe 550. I think sound barriers. Somewhere early. Six, six hundred miles an hour. I'm not quite sure what the exact number is. But we've. We've not advanced. I mean, they've advanced certainly in terms of the comfort and the safety. They've certainly advanced. I mean, it's been. I think in the United States, it goes back 16 years since they've had a crash.

Dean: Yeah. And you know what? I heard that the. The actual thing, the leading cause of death in airline travel is missiles.

Dan: It is.

Dean: That's the thing.

Dan: Over the last 10 years, there's been

Dean: more airliners shot down.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to be on a plane where you don't want to be in missile territory. You don't want to be flying over missile territory.

Dean: Right.

Dan: That's not good. Yeah, that's. No, no. Do not. Do not get on that flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And anyway, but there, you know, I was just thinking about that. We were in Chicago for the week, came home on Friday night, and, you know, I was on a 7 47. One of them last year's that they were using 747s.

Dean: Wow.

Dan: They're almost all cargo planes now. I think the only airline that I've noticed that's using still has a 747 is Lufthansa.

Dean: Oh.

Dan: Because. Because we're at Toronto. They're all. They have the 380s, you know, the huge.

Dean: Yeah. To Australia. The A3.

Dan: Well, yeah. This one is Emirates. Emirates. Their airline is A 380. But the only airline, you know, that I noticed when we're departing from the terminal here in Toronto, the only one that I've seen is. But they have. In Chicago, there's a whole freight area, you know. Freight area. Some days there's seven. Seven. 7:47. S there. Yeah. And they're a beautiful plane. I think as beautifulness. Beauty of planes goes, the 747 is in my. My favorite. I think it's the most beautiful plane. And anyway. Yeah, but they didn't go any faster. They didn't go any further. And, you know, they. Our cars, you know, the gas cars could do. They. They have the capability of doing 70, 80 miles per gallon now, but they don't have to. They don't have to. They have to. You know, so if they don't have to, they don't do it. You know, all technology, if they. If they don't have to, do it. So it's an interesting idea. I mean, we're so used to technology being constantly open, but the big question is, is there a customer for it? I mean, like, virtual reality, you know, is all. The thing about five years ago, you had Mark Zuckerberg doing very, very. I think he will look back and say, that was a very embarrassing video that I. You know, the Metaverse. The Metaverse and everything else, it's just dropped like a stone.

Dean: People just haven't. Even though the technology is.

Dan: Don't like. Don't like it.

Dean: So my friend Ed Dale was here, and he had the Apple, you know, the. The Vision Pro goggles or whatever. And so I got to, you know, try that and experience it. And it really is, like, uncanny how it feels like you're completely immersed, you know, and I think that for what it is, it is going to be amazing. But I. It's. It's pretty clear that we're not. Nobody's, like, flocking to put on these big headgear, you know?

Dan: You know, why? Our favorite tie, our favorite experiences with other people, and it cuts you off. It cuts you off from other people. It actually has a deep purse. It's a dehumanizing. Well, I. Activity.

Dean: Did you ever see the Lex Friedman podcast with Mark Zuckerberg in the Metaverse?

Dan: No, I didn't. Okay.

Dean: So they. It was a demo of the thing. They were. It was kind of like, do you remember Charlie Rose? Do you remember the Charlie Rose? Sure. I thought the black curtain in the background. Okay, well, it was kind of set up like that, but Mark and Lex Friedman were in completely different areas, a completely different, you know, Lex was in Austin or whatever, and Mark was in California, and they met in this, you know, Metaverse environment with just a black background like that. And you could visibly see that Lex Friedman was a little bit, like, shaken by how real it seemed, like how it felt like he was really there and could reach out and touch him, you know, and you could really tell it was authentically awe struck by, by this technology, you know, So I don't doubt that. But the.

Dan: Yeah, but I don't want.

Dean: Cumbersome.

Dan: Yeah, I don't want that feeling, you know, I mean, zoom has taken it as far as I really want to go with.

Dean: I agree 100.

Dan: Yeah. I have no complaints with what zoom isn't doing. Yeah, yeah. It's, you know, it's, it's very clear and you know, they add little features like you can even heighten the portrait quality of your. Yeah, so that, that's fine. That's fine. But it's, you know, you know, I was thinking the other day, I was on a zoom. I've been on a lot of zoom calls in the last two weeks. Different for different reasons.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And I just, you know, I said, this is good. You know, I don't need anything, particularly more than I'm getting.

Dean: Right.

Dan: So I wonder if we get a point of technological saturation and you say, I don't want any more technology. I just.

Dean: Right, right.

Dan: Yeah. I want, I want to squirrel with a nut.

Dean: Right. Yeah. I think once I get more. The more I talk with Charlotte, the more it feels like a real collaboration, you know, like, it feels like you

Dan: don't need a second. You don't need a second.

Dean: And I don't need to see her or to. I don't need.

Dan: No, you don't. But you don't need a second person. You got. You got the one that'll get smarter.

Dean: Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so it's, I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty amazing. This whole, you know, I was saying thinking back, like, you know, the last 25 years, we're 25 years into this, this 800 years, you know, this millennia. And, you know, looking. Because that, that's a real, you know, 2000 was not that long ago. When you look backwards at it, you know, and looking forward, it's pretty. That's what I'm trying to align myself to look more forward than back right now and realize what it is. I think that through line, I think that the big four are going to be the thing. Words like text and pictures and sound and video, those are, Those are at the core. But all of those require on. They're just a conveyance for ideas, you know?

Dan: Yeah, yeah. It's very interesting because we have other senses. We have touch, we have taste, we have smell, but I don't see any I don't see any movement at all

Dean: in the physical world. Right, exactly.

Dan: Yeah. You know, I don't see it that I think we want to keep, you know, we want to keep mainland. We want to keep those things mainland.

Dean: Yeah. And I think that that's really, you know, if you think about the spirit of what we started welcome to Cloudlandia for was really exploring that migration and the, you know, cohabitation of the mainland and Cloudlandia.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: Because so much of these things.

Dan: But I think I, and this is, I'm just wondering here, you know, I'm not making a statement. I'm just wondering whether each human has a unique nervous system and we have different preference. Different preferences on how we, our nervous system interacts, you know, with different kinds of experiences. You know, I think it's, I think, I think it's very, it's a very idiosyncratic world.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Everybody, everybody's up to something different. Yeah.

Dean: And I think you're right. Like, but that's where these self awareness things, like knowing your Colby and your, you know, your working genius and your Myers Briggs and all the, all these self awareness things are, are very valuable and even more valuable when pairing for collaboration, you know, realizing in a who not how world that there's so many. We're connected to everybody, you know.

Dan: Yeah. And we've got our purposes for interacting. You know, I mean, we have, you know, I'm. I'm pretty extroverted when it comes to business, but I'm very, very introverted when it comes to personal life.

Dean: I think I'd be the same thing.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. And in other words, I really enjoy. We had, we were in Chicago and we had nine workshops in five days there. And they were big workshops. They were, you know, each. Yeah, we have a big, we have a big, huge room now. We can, technically we can put 100 in. Now we can put 100 person workshop.

Dean: Oh, in Chicago.

Dan: Yeah, in Chicago. Yeah. We've taken over large amounts of the floor. I think there's just one small area of that floor. Floor that we don't have. It's a, it's a weird thing. It looks like government. Some sort of deep state government building. We've never seen anyone in it and we've never seen anyone in it. But it's lit up and it's got an American flag and it's got some strange name that I don't know. And that's the only thing that's on the floor. It's not been known that a human actually Came to the office there anyway. But we've taken over 6,000 square feet. Six more thousand.

Dean: Oh, wow.

Dan: Yeah, it's quite nice.

Dean: That's pretty crazy. How's the studio project starting?

Dan: We had great, great difference of opinion on what the insurance is worth. You know, what the insurance should be. You know, insurance companies are not in the business of paying out claims. You know, that's not their, that's not their business model anyway. But so our team, two of our team members, Mitch and Alex, great, great people. They, they got the evidence of the original designer of the studio. They got the evidence of the original owner of the studio and how much he paid. They got the specifications, they brought in a third person. Third person and they got all this, these people all had records and we brought it to the insurance company, you know, and you know what it, what it was valued at in, I think it's 2000. I think it was in 2000 that it was created. It was rated the number one post production studio in Canada in, in the year 2000.

Dean: Wow.

Dan: Yeah. You know, and everything. So they, you know, and then strangely enough, the insurance company said, well, you gotta, you gotta get a public adjuster. We got a public adjuster and he had been in coach for 20 years. He favors us.

Dean: He favors us.

Dan: Exactly. Yeah. But the first check is they give the checks out in three. Yeah, there's first check, there's middle check, and there's a final check. So. But I think we'll have complete studios by October. October, November. That's great. Which will be great.

Dean: Yeah, yeah.

Dan: Which would be great. Yeah. You know, the interesting thing, here's a thought for you, and I'm not sure it's the topic for today. It has to do with how technology doesn't develop wisdom, doesn't develop the use of technology doesn't develop wisdom. It develops power, it develops control, it develops ambition, but it doesn't develop wisdom. And I think the reason is because wisdom is only developed over time.

Dean: Yes. And that wisdom is. Yeah, I think from real experience.

Dan: And wisdom is about what's always going to be true. And technology isn't about what's always going to be true. It's about what's next. It's, it's not about what's always the same. They're actually opposed. Technology and wisdom are. Well, they're not opposed. They, they operate in different worlds.

Dean: Yeah, that's. Yeah. Feels like wisdom is like based on an experience, right?

Dan: Yeah, yeah. Which happens over time.

Dean: Mm.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Yeah. Because it's not theoretical at that. I Think it's got to be experiential.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. It's very interesting. I heard a great quote. I don't know who it was. Might be a philosopher by the name of William James. And he said his definition of reality. You know what his definition of reality is?

Dean: No, I don't.

Dan: It's a great definition. Reality is that which, if you don't believe in it, still exists.

Dean: Oh, yeah, that's exactly right. And that's what, you know, that's the kind of things. And just because you don't know it,

Dan: you know, that doesn't mean. It. Doesn't mean it can't bite you.

Dean: But when, when you get hit by it, then that. Then you've got wisdom, then, you know.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Monday is a big day. Big day. You know, And. Yeah. And, you know, with Trump, they. He said he's got a hundred executive orders for day one. Yeah. And the only question is, your inauguration, is it. Does day one start the moment he's sworn in?

Dean: Is it. Does it start today? He's warning.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: Okay, so let's see.

Dan: Yeah. The moment the chief justice, you know, you know, he finishes the oath. He's, he's. He's the president. And, And Joe's officially on the beach.

Dean: Yeah, Shady Acres, right. Exactly.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, what's happened this past week since we actually, we haven't talked for two weeks. But the fires in Los Angeles, I think this is a big moment. I think this. I think this is a watershed moment, I think, in political. Political affairs. And I think it is, because it's the first time that the newest 10,000 homeless people in Los Angeles are rich.

Dean: Oh, man. Yeah. I've heard Adam Carolla was talking about the. That there's going to be a red wave that comes over California now because all these, The Democratic elite, which would be all of those people who live on those oceanfront homes and all that, they. They were so rallying. No, they were so rallying to. To be on the side of regulation so that people couldn't build around them. And they made it so, you know, they. Now that they've got theirs, they made it very, very difficult for other people to.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Eclipse them or to do the things. And they're going to run straight into the wall of all these regulations when they start to rebuild what they had

Dan: even, you know, it's going to be

Dean: years and years of going through regulation and coastal commission and, you know, all that to get approvals.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: And they're gonna be frustrated with that whole, with that whole thing. But I, I've been hearing that there was some arson involved. Somebody. Somebody's been.

Dan: Well, yeah, you know. Have you ever seen or heard of Michael Shellenberger? He's really, he's great. He's a scientist who's gone public. You know, he's a sort of a public intellectual now, but he was. And he was very much on the left and very much with the global warming people. And then he began to realize so much of the global warming movement is really an attempt. Exactly what you said about the California rich. These are rich people who don't want the rest of the world to get rich. And the way, the way you keep them from not getting rich is you don't give them access to energy. You know that. And you've got your energy and you can pay for more, but they don't have energy, so you prevent them. And, and so he became a big fan of nuclear power. He said, you know, the best thing we can do so that people can catch up quickly as we should get nuclear in, because they may be a place where there really isn't easy access to oil, gas and coal. Africa being, you know, Africa being a place. And he just has gradually just gone deeper and deeper into actual reality. And now he's completely, you know, he's completely against it, the. Against the people who want to get rid of fossil fuels. But anyway, he said, what nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole in California is that in addition to rich people, there were homeless people in the Pacific Palisades. And he said, and a lot of them are meth addicts. And he said meth addicts favorite activity is to set fires. He says, he says different drugs have different. In other words, you take heroin and you want to do this. You take cocaine, you want to do this with methamphetamines. What you want to do is you want to set fires. So he said, nobody wants to talk, talk about the homeless meth addicts or starting fires that burn down 10,000 homes, you know, because they're actually welcome in Los Angeles. They actually get government benefits. Yeah, there's a lot of what they stand for that collides with reality.

Dean: Yeah, it is going to be crazy.

Dan: I think Gavin should forget. I think Gavin should forget about the presidency.

Dean: Oh, man. Yeah, they're gonna have him. He's gonna have some explaining to do. Yeah, you know.

Dan: Yeah. You know, it was very interesting when I got out of the army, which was 1967. May of 1967 was in Korea and they. And, you know, put us on a big plane. They flew us to Seattle. We. And they discharged us in Seattle. So. And. But you had money to get home. They gave you your discharge money. So I had a brother who was teaching at the University of San Francisco. And. And. And so I went down and I visited with him. He was a philosophy teacher, dead now. And so it was 1967. And he said, there's this neat part of the city I want to take you to. And it was Haight Ashbury. And. And it was right in the beginning. Beginning of that movement, the hippie movement, you know, And. And I had just been in the army for two years, so there was a collision of daily. Daily discipline there. And anyway, but we were walking down the street, and I said, what's that smell? Weird smell? He says, oh, yeah? You want to try some? It's marijuana. Well, what you saw with. Was. What you saw last week with the fires is the philosophy of hippieism moved into government control over a period of 60 years. It ends up with fires where there's no water in the reservoirs.

Dean: Yeah, that's. Yeah. I mean, so many cascading. So many cascading problems. Right. That came.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: When you think about all the. All the other things, it's crazy.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: All. All the factors that had to go into it.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: It's. So this is, what, the Internet, you know, this. This whole thing now, there's so many, like, all the conspiracy theories now about all of these. Every time anything, you know, there's always the. That they were artificially. You know, there's some scientists talking about how the barometric pressure has been artificially low for an extended period of time, that they were manipulating it to set up this tinderbox, you know.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's very. It's very interesting how energy, you know, just. Energy plays into every other discussion. You know, just to have the power to do what you want to do that day is a central human issue, And. And who you do it with and what you have, you know, what. What it is that you can do. And, you know, and I was having a conversation. I was in Chicago for the week, and there was a lot of lunch times where other, you know, clients. Not. I had just the one workshop, but there were eight other workshops. So people would come into the cafe for lunch, and they'd say, if you had to name three things that Trump's gonna emphasize over the next four years, what do you think they would be? And I said, energy. Energy. Energy.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Three Three things. Just drill, drill, drill, drill, drill, drill. Yeah, so. And Greenland, Canada and Panama. Take them over.

Dean: Yeah, exactly. Hey, Canada.

Dan: We're out of wood.

Dean: Get out.

Dan: Yeah. Things are strange up here.

Dean: Yeah. What's the. What. What's the.

Dan: Well, he's gone. He's still around for two months, but. But he resigned. He's resigned as prime minister. He's resigning as party leader, and I think it was on Wednesday. He said he's not running in the election, so he's out as a. And then he'll go to Harvard because that's where all the liberal failures go. They become professors at Harvard. I suspect. I suspect. Yeah. Or he may just go back to Whistler and he'll be a snowboard. Snowboard instructor. Wouldn't that be cool? Get the former prime minister as your snowboard instructor.

Dean: Yeah. Really? Exactly.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Is there. I don't even know. Is he. Is he rich? Are they. Is their family?

Dan: No.

Dean: Or. No.

Dan: Well, I think. I think his. It's a trust fund.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: So, I mean, his dad didn't work, you know, I mean, his dad was in politics.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Not as you and I would recognize, work. And so that. But it was gas station. Is. Trudeau had a lot of gas station, which is ironic, you know, which.

Dean: It is kind of ironic, isn't it?

Dan: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I don't think he has that much. You know, I saw some figures. Maybe he's got a couple million, which. Which, you know, probably what was available. You know, those trust funds, they don't perpetuate themselves.

Dean: Right?

Dan: Yeah, but he's. Yeah, there's just two people are running. That's the. The woman who knifed him, you know, Christia Freeland. She's. She's running. And then the former governor of the bank of Canada and the former governor, bank of England. He was both governor, and he's really very much of a wackadoodle intellectual, you know, really believes that people have too much freedom. We have to restrict freedom and we have to redesign a lot. Davos, sort of a Davos no. World Economic Firm. Yeah, we've got. We've got. We've got ours. You don't get ours, you know, We've got ours. You don't get. You don't even get yours.

Dean: Right.

Dan: And. And, yeah, so. Strange man. Straight. Very strange man. She's a strange woman. But he's a.

Dean: Is it pretty much green lights for Pollyv right now?

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. And he's not doing anything to ruin his chances, either. He's actually. He had a Great interview with Jordan Peterson about two weeks ago. He was very, very impressive. I'm very impressed about it. Yeah.

Dean: Yeah. Oh, that's great.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Oh, did you go to his Christmas party, by the way?

Dan: No, I did. They didn't follow through, so.

Dean: Oh.

Dan: So, you know, I'm just going to sit in this chair and wait. You know, I'm just.

Dean: Yeah, exactly.

Dan: I mean, I mean, he'll be told, you know, that you've missed a huge opportunity here, you know.

Dean: Yes, exactly. Yes. Oh, man. Yeah, that's funny, Dan. I'm, you know, after four years of being. No further, I didn't go north of I4 this. I'm in this crazy little vortex of travel right now coming up. I was just in Longboat Key. I was at speaking at JJ Virgin's Mindshare Summit. So I was there, you know, Wednesday till yesterday, and then I'm home. I got hit with this call. I think it was like a. You know, whenever you're in a group of people in a big thing, it's always. It becomes a super spreader kind of event. You know, there's a lot of people with this kind of lung gunk thing going around.

Dan: Right.

Dean: So I ended up getting it, but I've got now till Tuesday to get better. And then I'm going to speak at Paris. Lampropolis is doing.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Here in Orlando. And then I go to Miami for Giovanni Marcicos event the following week. And then I've got my breakthrough blueprint in Orlando the week after that. And then, wow, Scottsdale for Free Zone the week after that. So every week the number of nights in my own bed is.

Dan: Yeah, well, we're going to Scottsdale or not Scottsdale, but week after next. So I'll be here next Sunday. And then I go on Tuesday we go to Phoenix and we'll be at Carefree. And what's Carefree?

Dean: Oh, oh, that's where.

Dan: That's. That's. No, no, Carefree is north of. It's north and east of Scottsdale in Phoenix. Yeah. And so we're at Richard Rossi's Da Vinci 50. And then we take off for there. We drive to Tucson for Canyon Ranch. Then we drive back and we. We have the summit. We have the Free Zone summit. And then we have. And then we have. And then we have 100k. Yeah.

Dean: Right.

Dan: So. Yeah, so. So that's it. So that. So are you coming to the summit too? Are you coming?

Dean: I am, of course.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. And what I'm doing this time, as I have I have three speakers in the morning and three speakers in the afternoon. And I have Stephen Poulter, Leslie Fall, and Sunny Kalia.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And then the afternoon, I have Charlie Epstein, Chris Johnson, and Steve crying. And what I did is I did a triple play on the three in the morning, three in the afternoon, I did triple play. And then I'm talking to each of them of how they're trifecta. You know, what they're talking about is a trifecta. And then, see, I'm creating a little sheet with the names of the three speakers, three columns. And then you write down what you got from these two. Three columns.

Dean: Right.

Dan: And then you. You get your three insights. And then you talk in the morning, you know, in groups, and you. Yeah, talk. And then you do the same thing in the afternoon. I think that would be neat.

Dean: Nice. Very nice.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

Dean: It's always a good time, always a great event.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: Two parties.

Dan: Yep. Yep. Then we have sort of a party every night with Richard. So it's about. Oh, yeah, three parties, and then two parties with me, and then probably two parties with Joe. So. Seven parties. Seven parties. Seven parties. Yeah. And. Yeah. Well, I hope your editor can, you know, modulate your voice delivery.

Dean: I'm so sorry. Yeah, exactly.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, you got it. Yeah. What a couple days you've been with it.

Dean: Yeah. Yesterday was, like, peak. I can already feel that. You know, surrounded by doctors at JJ's thing. So I got some.

Dan: Where's lawn boat tea?

Dean: Sarasota.

Dan: Oh, okay.

Dean: Yeah, it's. It's. Yeah, it's just a island right off of Sarasota. And so, you know, surrounded by doctors. And so I got a. I got some glutathione and vitamin C and some. Then I got home, and JJ's team had sent some bone broth and some, you know, some echinacea tea and all the little care package for nipping it bud and a Z pack for.

Dan: I've got a great pancake power pancake recipe that I created. I actually created this. You're talking to original, the world premiere. Yeah. So you take about 6 ounces of egg white. Egg white. Okay. And you put it in a blender. And then you take about a handful of walnuts. You put it in, and you take a full scoop of bone broth and put it in. And then you just take a little bit of oatmeal. Just give it a little bit of start.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And then a little bit of salt. Then you, you know, you veggie. Veggie mix it Veggie mix it, you know, then you put it in a pie pan, and then you put. Then you put frozen rods or raspberries, bacon bits and onions.

Dean: Raspberries and bacon bits.

Dan: Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Bacon bits makes everything taste better.

Dean: I. It really does. That's. Oh, yeah, think about that with raspberries. But that's great.

Dan: Yeah. I told people in the coach, you know, the triple play. I said, triple play is my bacon tool. Whatever other. Whatever other tool you did. You do the triple play and it's like adding bacon to bacon.

Dean: That's the best.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. It makes it good. And then you. You just put it in the microwave for five and a half minutes and it comes out as a really nice pancake.

Dean: Oh, that's great.

Dan: Yeah, it's protein. I call it my protein pie.

Dean: Protein pie. That's great. Dan Sullivan's triple play protein pie.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah.

Dean: In a recipe. Recipe. Cards handed out. These. Will they show up in the breakfast buffet?

Dan: No, no, it's, you know, I think it's. I think it's. It takes a developed taste, you know, to. To get it, you know, but it's got a lot of protein. It's got, you know, egg white. And the protein, the. The bone broth, it has a ton of protein in it.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: So it's good. Yeah, I'm down. I'm down. Good. Yeah. I'm at. Probably since I was 20, maybe in the Army.

Dean: My.

Dan: My present weight, I'm probably down there, and I got about another 10 to go. And then it's my linebacker weight when I was in high school. Going back to. Going back to linebacker.

Dean: Well, you'll have those new young teenage knees that should be able to suit

Dan: up one of them. One of them, yeah.

Dean: If your Cleveland Browns need you.

Dan: Yeah. Well, if you. If you want to play, you know, football, professional football, play for the Browns because you always get January.

Dean: That's funny.

Dan: Yeah. Kansas City yesterday, you know, is about zero. You know, I mean, boy, oh, boy, you know, you gotta. That, you know, I mean, did Kansas City win yesterday? Yeah, they won, you know, 23, 2314, something like that, you know, and, you know, they're just smarter. You know, it's not even that they're better athletes. I think they're. Their coach is just smarter and everything like that. Yeah. But. Yeah, yeah, I watch. I'm more interested in college football than I am so. Ohio State and Notre Dame, two, you know, two historically classical. Yeah.

Dean: I've really gotten into Colorado football because just watching what Deion Sanders has Done in two seasons. Basically went from the last. The last worst team in college football.

Dan: Yeah, One and a good one to a good.

Dean: Yeah. To nine and three and a bowl game and.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: You know, and Travis Hunter won the Heisman, and they could potentially have the number one and two draft picks in the NFL this year. You know, that's. That's something.

Dan: Did he get both of them? I know he got his son because his son came with him. Did he get the other. Was he a transfer? Hunter? I don't know.

Dean: Travis Hunter came. He brought him from.

Dan: He.

Dean: He brought him from Jackson State. Because before. Before Dion went to Colorado, he spent three years in.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: At Jackson State and turned that whole program around.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And then came.

Dan: I notice he was talking to the Cowboys this week.

Dean: I. I don't know whether he is or that's. I mean, they're. Everybody speculating that that's true. I don't know how I feel about that. Like, I think. I think it would be interesting. You know, I'm. I'm rooting that he stays at Colorado and. And builds an empire, you know, but.

Dan: Yeah, of course that, you know, used to screw the athletes because the coach would, you know, draft them, they would come to the university and then they would leave.

Dean: That's what I mean.

Dan: No, but now. But now they have the transfer portal. So, you know, if the university would

Dean: leave, a lot of. I think it would leave a really bad taste in people's mouth if he. If he left now.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: Like, I think that would. I. I would. I wouldn't feel good about what. About that either. Because I think about all the people that he's brought there with promises, you know, like, everybody's joined. He's. He's building momentum. All these top recruits are coming there because of him.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And now, you know, if he leaves, that's just, you know, that. That's too. I don't know. I don't feel good about that.

Dan: I don't feel good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I've got. I gotta jump. I've got.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: I've got. Jeff. We're deep into the writing. Writing of the book.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: And so I've got. We have to chat room for about 10 minutes. So. So anyway, I'm happy. I hope your cold goes away next. I'll be here in Toronto next week and I'll call and then we'll see each other. We'll see each other within the next couple of weeks.

Dean: That's exactly right. Okay.

Dan: Okay. Bye.

Dean: Talk to you soon. Bye.