Adopting New Capabilities

Dean: Welcome to Cloudlandia, Mr. Sullivan.

Dan: Mr. Jackson. I've been eager, I've been waiting. I've been really looking forward to.

Dean: Me, too. Look at us. We're both early. That's funny. I love it. Well, welcome to Cloudlandia.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. And I'm thinking that we're starting. I think we're starting to see since the beginning of COVID which I consider a major historical inflection point. You can call it an inflection point. That's a technology world where all of a sudden a large number of people adapt a new capability.

Dean: I agree. And it wouldn't have.

Dan: And importantly, and what I would say, adventuresome, experimental.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Innovative. Innovative people.

Dean: Certainly, everybody did that.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: It was. You know, it was. It was. I think it's. It's condensed, probably five years adoption rate.

Dan: Yeah. And in our case, I'm telling the team, it's 10 years. Maybe, you know, maybe. Maybe in the2030s, we would have introduced a virtual, you know, virtual program. And. But I said, unless there was some overriding urgency or necessity to do it, it would happen gradually and, you know, it would take hold and it would grow and everything else. But here it had to. It had to accelerate very, very quickly.

Dean: It's funny, now I've been having some conversations, like, with different people. You know, I meet all kinds of people coming to my events and things, and inevitably we talk about Strategic Coach and the impact, you know, of being in that environment. And I've had just in the last 30 days, three or four conversations with people who are now considering being part of Strategic Coach because they can do it virtually as opposed to where it used to. We could only do it by traveling person.

Dan: Yeah, traveling.

Dean: And.

Dan: Yeah, And. And we know because, you know, we have very, very good contact records. So if the first time there's a contact between someone interested, you know, or it's a referral, that we actually do the communication. In other words, it's on our part. There's a. There's a record kept of all these conversations. The people who do it, the sales team, they have to keep the record and say, you know, what progress was made in this communication, you know, and what have we found out about this person? And the moment that we introduced the. What we call the global virtual. Global or global virtual, I'm not quite sure.

Dean: Right, right, right.

Dan: That's above my security clearance to know the exact wording in the company.

Dean: It works either way.

Dan: The call record in some cases goes back five or six years where they've been Interested that something that they would do but travel, you know, actual physical travel was the barrier that they couldn't get over to actually sign up. And that was eliminated. So we're up to right now, we're up to about 470since last September who have joined. You know, they.

Dean: Oh, that's awesome.

Dan: Their check has cleared.

Dean: So exciting. I love it. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan: And the thing is that we talk to them right away. Like I will do a zoom call with people who have signed up, haven't done their first workshop or they're between their first workshop and their second workshop, which is only a two month. There's only two months between workshops and the virtual global. So they get six workshops a year and then they get six, six connectors between those. So literally every month were providing.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And I can only do that because it's virtual. I mean, I mean I might have had a wish to do that before, but there was just no possibility of doing it. Yeah. So just there just think about two things that the biggest barrier to joining has been removed and we start communicating with very, very early and frequently. Yeah. So yeah, those are big things.

Dean: I love it. And all from your comfy home environment.

Dan: Yes. The dogwoods are out. My golly. The dogwoods are great this year.

Dean: So amazing.

Dan: Yeah. So, yeah, we didn't know how great they were, but they're great.

Dean: They're great. I'll tell you what though, I. I'm start. Am having Toronto withdrawals. This has been, this will be a long time. Second summer, two years. Yeah.

Dan: You haven't been, you haven't been to Toronto. And I think the last I was

Dean: in Toronto would have been in August of. Or September of 2019.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: The last.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: So I hate to go two full years.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, the whole country of Canada is like kind of groundhogs. You know, we're kind of like groundhogs. And we came out, sun was shining, we saw our shadow, we went back in and you know, and the US Is wide open. I mean, for the most part the US Is wide open.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: The Canadians are kind of inching out, you know. And anyway, so I do have my, you know, I told you last time I got my second. Second shot.

Dean: And so you're fully, fully immunized.

Dan: Yeah, no problem going to the States, coming back. I still get quarantined. Yeah.

Dean: Now I just, I just saw a headline about Bruce Springsteen in Toronto that he could only get there were certain if you had the AstraZeneca vaccine weren't allowed in to his show, it'd be fully vaccinated with the others. Amazing, isn't it?

Dan: Yeah. I mean, the people who are in control are eking it out, you know, like. Yeah, yeah, we have control of you and we'll give you a 10% back. But, you know, so they're creating all sorts of rules on the run just to.

Dean: Wow.

Dan: To maintain. I mean, it's a bit of a bureaucratic kingdom, you know, Canada. I mean, it's kind of a function, I think, of how the two countries were. You know, if you think about the pioneering period going from east to west, both countries went east to west, United States and Canada, but the US Mainly did it. They would open a territory and say, you know, if you. You know, if you hurry up, you can go out and you can claim a piece of territory and. Yeah, you know, on a certain day, we're going to lift the gates and you can all run out there and see what you can get. And then you get it. You have to register it with somebody, you know, local. Local authority, minimal authority. Whereas Canada, if you look at the history, it was institutional pioneering because three institutions went before there were a lot of people. One was the Hudson's Bay Company, which was a crown. It was a crown company, sort of like the East India Company or. Yeah, something like that. And it was granted by the. You know, it was granted by the monarchy in England and then granted by, you know, Parliament, I guess. And so the Hudson's Bay went out and it was a trading company, so they traded the. You know, the Indian and other, what are called indigenous people, Eskimos and everything else. So they established forts and, you know, and little trading towns and everything else. And then the next one that we went at were probably the Anglican Church. It was probably because that was sort of the state religion. And they went out and they established churches and everything else. And I think the third one, because the first two were having trouble, were the Mounties, the rcmp. They went out. So he had this big institutional push. And then a place would be deemed safe. And, you know, it had religion. It had, you know, it had a general store, and it had a.

Dean: Suitable for competition. Right, right.

Dan: And then people would gradually.

Dean: First, yeah.

Dan: And then the fourth one was the railroad. They put the railroad through all the way to Vancouver. And that was to really keep the Americans, you know, kind of not from taking over British Columbia and going right up the coast.

Dean: You know what I read about the. I read about the Oklahoma Sooners. Why they are called Sooners, because what you, you said they had the date that they were gonna, they had to get their gun. Yeah. Fire the gun and you could go and claim your stake, your claim. But there were people who had gone and, you know, crossed the line already hidden in the, the valleys or bushes or whatever, waiting, and then they jumped out and took their claim.

Dan: They got there sooner.

Dean: Yeah. They got there sooner.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: The best places, you know.

Dan: Yeah, that's probably, that's probably, you know, that's probably a major description of America in general, you know.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Sooner. Yeah. So get there sooner. Yeah. And. And the other thing is cold up here, you know, it's just a lot colder than, you know. Yeah. The experience of temperature and you know, I mean, here in Toronto, half the year is winter and.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know, and that makes a big difference on how fast things can happen and. Yeah. So I mean you talked about your summer visits. You don't talk about your winter visits.

Dean: That's the truth. I, I told you when I, when I, when you started The U times 10 program, it was.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: When you started that first group, I was, was that 2009 that started or somewhere back then.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: So 2009, I think. And so I told you then I was nine years into a snow free millennium, but I was willing to risk it. I was willing to risk that two days a year to be with you.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Your, your commitment was noted. Your commitment encourage. Were noted.

Dean: That's commitment. Oh man.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. But it's. Jesus. It's been a wonderful.

Dean: This is just.

Dan: It already has the makings of one of the best summers ever. You know, I mean we've, we've already had about five weeks of, you know, we're just a little ways through June and we've already had five weeks of really gorgeous, gorgeous weather. Everything's out, but it's, but the government is sort of frozen.

Dean: Right. Well, I'm pushing our, my boundaries here. I mean this is so Monday starts. The first live breakthrough blueprint.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: I've done in, in 18 months.

Dan: And they're coming to you.

Dean: They're coming, they're coming to Celebration. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: So we're going to do it at Celebration Hotel where it all started. The very first one was.

Dan: Well, you have, you'll have great, you'll have great stories to tell when we, when we do our podcast next time. Because this is almost, it's almost like you've gone into the past. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Dean: We'll see real people.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And then I've got. Oh yeah. Who's coming? Is our Friend Norman Dunnigan is gonna be there. So that'll be Norman Dunnigan. Oh, yeah. From South Carolina. Yeah, he's gonna be there. So that'll be fun. And then the week after that, next weekend, I told you, I have not been more than 90 minutes by car away from my house in. In that 15 months. And now I'm about to push that to, you know, two hours and in 30 minutes, because we're going down to. We're gonna go to the. The Four Seasons at Palm beach for a week just to chill and have some. Have some nice beach time.

Dan: So that'll be.

Dean: I've spent.

Dan: I've been there for a couple nights. You know, that. Probably back in the. Right. Back in the 90s or something like that, we were in Palm Beach. I said, let's say Four Seasons. We went over and looked at the breakers, but it's a little antiquated.

Dean: It is. The breakers is a good place to go. Eben Pagan and I go there to have. Have tea. Yep. They serve high tea in the breakers and that. You can imagine. I remember sitting. The first time Evan and I went there. You know, we sat in the, you know, got a beautiful big, you know, open room. You can. The whole place is. You could just imagine it in. I met what I imagine would have been the early 1900s, early. Early 20s, just. And they haven't.

Dan: Yeah. I think.

Dean: I mean, it's.

Dan: I think originally it was one of the Flagler hotels. Yeah. With the railroad.

Dean: With the train. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, with the trains. Yeah.

Dean: And we sat there and, you know, we would have tea and, you know, they bring all the little tray with the sandwiches and the cookies and sophisticated. Sophisticated cookies that. The breakers. The little sandwiches with breath and real high tea. And we just sit there for hours. And that was where I remember declaring to Eben that we decided that there couldn't be many things better than if you could be a business philosopher. That would be the. That's what we're talking about is being.

Dan: Well, I kind of. I kind of resonate with that. You know, I mean, I'm thinking about. Your thinking is kind of a form of philosophy. I think it is. And. And, yeah, it was really remarkable. I talked. You talked about Flagler, but it was interesting, the history of Ohio, that Flagler grew up about 20 miles. 20 miles from where I grew up. Edison grew up two miles from where I did. Rockefeller grew up 60 miles from where I grew up. You know, you had something in the water there. Well, you know, it's interesting, over about a six 60 year period, I think 70 year period. Seven US presidents came from Ohio. Ohio was the real California of its state. You know, it was the western push. And. But Ohio established itself right away because it's got great water access with the, you know, it's got the lake on the. One of the Great Lakes.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: On the top. And then it's got the Ohio river that goes underneath it. So you have this terrific waterway. And, you know, it's fairly flat. There isn't much. Yeah, there's not much. And it's mostly land there. You know, there's not. There's not much. It's really great farmland and, and everything. And so it was easy to settle. You know, it was agriculturally very prosperous and transportation was really good. So that's. Yeah, that's. Yeah. And so a lot of. And the Wright brothers came from Dayton, you know. Dayton, Ohio.

Dean: Yeah, exactly.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. So you had a lot of, you know, you had a lot of pioneers and inventors and, you know, innovators from that area. And it's a big state. I mean, it's still, I think it's like number six size wise out of the 50 and. Yeah, but it's got a little bit of everything that's kind of got almost everything that's agricultural, it's industrial, it's high tech, huge medical. Cleveland Clinic is one of the really big medical systems in the country. And you grew up there, you know, and you know, it's kind of. It's a little bit of everything

Dean: that's interesting. I mean, because that. Back then, I guess that was. You looked at like Cleveland and those kind of places. St. Louis, those were all like, they

Dan: were really booming, settled city. Yeah, exactly.

Dean: I remember there's something about Cyrus. Cyrus McCormick is somehow. There's something about Ohio with, with Cyrus. I don't think he was born there, but I think one of. I think the early, like things they did with the reaper were in Ohio. When I did my Project Cyrus program, I had. We had the. We hid our training program behind these front sites that were where the people had to go to get the authorized dealer training. So we set up these websites. We had set up Dayton Tractor Company and Window Tractor Company and when you'd go there, it was a. The reason I did it, I read about or saw there's a company in California called Secret Weapon Marketing. And they were over in Santa Monica and they had a. They had a front, a storefront of their office that was the Kowloon Wholesale Seafood Company. And so you would go into the Kowloon Wholesale Seafood Company. And they have a chalkboard with the market prices and, you know, the counter. And then they'd have a beaded, you know, walk curtain to walk into. And then when you're behind the beaded curtain, you have to push this button and the doors open and you're into the. The inner sanctum of secret weapon marketing. Hiding. Hiding behind the Kowloon Wholesale Seafood Company. And I thought that was so funny. If I could ever do anything like that.

Dan: Now, the secret. All these secret rooms are virtual rooms, right?

Dean: That's exactly right.

Dan: They're not physical rooms.

Dean: That's exactly right.

Dan: Yeah. I was talking to Mark Goodman, you know, the cybercap that goes to genius, and I was asking him about the dark web. You know, the dark web. There's the web and then there's the dark web. So there's kind of the. The legal web that people are used to. And I said, bigger or smaller dark web? He says, dark web's got 10 times bigger than the actual web.

Dean: Oh, wow.

Dan: He said, you can't.

Dean: Please.

Dan: He says you can't believe the stuff that goes on, you know, and this is illegal, you know, and.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know, I mean, some of it is, know, maniacal and insane and, you know, and it's. I would say the actual web kind of relates most to people's conscious part of their brain, and the dark web is everybody's unconscious. Wow. Really? You know. Yeah. It's a place where things relate to people's worst nightmares, you know. Wow. And it's a. It's a very fruitful topic, you know. It's a very fruitful topic for, you know, for intrigue and, you know, murder. Murder, homicide, detect homicide novels and everything like that.

Dean: Yeah, right. But realized that was the thing.

Dan: Yeah. And I said, well, is this dangerous for normal people? He said, no. He said, because you. You wouldn't have any interest. Would bring you in contact with it.

Dean: Oh, I got you. But how? I mean, wow. I mean, if it's bigger, then that seems crazy to me that there are either more people with bigger, you know, weird appetites, I guess, or.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Oh, yeah.

Dan: I mean, think of all the different kinds of crimes there are. Well, where do those people feel safe to communicate with each other? People who are interested in that, you know, and.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know, I mean, that's. You know, I was looking at, you know, first of all, almost all drug merchandising until recently was on the dark web. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't, you know, I mean.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Marijuana Marijuana in, you know, in North America, just selling marijuana, you know, which was illegal 10 years ago. Ten years ago, it was illegal, you know, everywhere. And so how do you set up, you know, how do you. How do the wholesalers work? How to. How does product get delivered? How do people, you know, how do people, you know, order, you know, and, and, and it's an interesting thing. And then what I was looking, I was looking at slavery that they estimate right now in the world, if you take everybody into account, there's still probably about 50 to 60 million people who are in slavery. In slavery, you know, they are owned by other people. They're, you know, their, their time is entirely controlled by other people. And, you know, it's not employment. They can't leave and everything else. Well, where, where did the deals get done? Dark web, right? Yeah.

Dean: Wow, that's. That's something. Well, good thing that Cloudlandia is a bright and shiny place. Safe. Yeah. Welcome to all. Yes. Opportunity for all.

Dan: Yeah. But it just shows you that anything can be good or bad depending upon the person using it.

Dean: That's true.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: That is true.

Dan: So, you know, bad people do bad things with new tools.

Dean: Yes. So every. I have some interesting. A couple of weeks ago, I don't know whether I mentioned this to you, I signed up with a. I was on my newsfeed and I saw. I've been seeing these ads for company, or company, I guess a website called Commit Action. And essentially what they are, is accountability on demand kind of thing. And so they have a meet program that I have been doing now, third week. And it's essentially I talk to somebody one, one time a week and I lay out this is the things that I'm going to do and when I'm going to. We put them on the calendar in the, the platform that they have, and then I just do them. And it's really interesting. It's like this. There's nothing magic about it. There's no. We're not strategizing. We're not doing anything like that. I'm. I'm thinking about my thinking. I know what, what the next steps are for me on, on projects. And I bring that, you know, what are the three things that we're gonna, that we're gonna do? And I put them on the, on the calendar. And I've been amazed with how that little bit of external accountability raises the intention, I guess. I don't know, raises the outcome for me that I've.

Dan: Do they have, do they have a reminder thing goes along with it?

Dean: They Do So they. An encouragement, like the reminding something, you know, like. Or after I said I was gonna record something, they'll. An hour later or at the end of that time, I get a text and say, hey, how did the recording go? It's really, it's well done, you know.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm very intrigued. I'm very intrigued by it because I'm wondering if being accountable to something that is inhuman and being reminded by something isn't human but is programmed to be supportive is actually as a breakthrough because entrepreneurs for the, you know, I mean, just part of the entrepreneurial DNA is being accountable to yourself and yes. You know, and everything like that. But you might not be all that good at it.

Dean: Right. That's the truth. That's for me. So it's a real person, though, that I do talk to? Oh yeah, it's a real person.

Dan: Boy, if you ever thought that technology was going to eliminate people, this is, this is a great example. Not in a million years.

Dean: Yeah. So that was the. Yes, I talked.

Dan: Male or female?

Dean: Female, I bet. Yeah. And so 20. We talked for about 20 minutes at max at the same time. So

Dan: yeah,

Dean: Monday at 9, 20 is my time.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And it's. I really, you know, I have been. Because I've got so many things going on that what I'm finding, you know, we've talked about this idea that, you know, things get done in real time. Right. It's not, not shapeshifter time, like vision and solving a problem and you know, creating plans, though the things that have to get done have to get done in real time. And so. Oh yeah, right now I'm not, I'm not using it to organize all of my things. So I'm not like, yeah, I'm not using it to organize every minute of my, my week or whatever. I'm allocating, you know, four to six hours worth of stuff a week that, like slots that I'm putting in, you know, two or three two hour blocks that I'm setting. The intention of what I'm going to do in those and then putting them on the calendar and then being held accountable for. For getting them done. And.

Dan: Yeah. You know.

Dean: Right. Cadence.

Dan: The. One of the things I've noticed about myself is that nothing has a priority unless it has a deadline.

Dean: Right.

Dan: In my world, I mean, you say, well, you're going to do that, Dan? And I said, have you given me a deadline for it? And they said, no, but you, you know, it's really important. I said, it's not important. If it doesn't have a deadline.

Dean: Right, right, right, right.

Dan: They said, yeah, but that seems, you know, like, you know, you know, next couple weeks. I said, I am foggiest idea what the next couple of weeks means. My brain just does not compute the next couple of weeks.

Dean: Right.

Dan: July 3rd. My brain computes July 3rd.

Dean: Uh huh. Yeah. Isn't that so that, that's interesting. You know, like I found just the. And I mean there's nothing I could and have done this on my own. Like I figured, you know, I've figured out the way to do things, but this is. But now I'm actually. There's another person involved in this that there's a. It's. I found that it's really even. I'm taking this what I'm. There's a trickle down now and I'm into this now where, you know, I've been doing some collaborations with my Color by Unicorn Lacey doing. Working on some projects together. And what I've found is the trickle down of that is that I set up to talk with Lacey right after I talk with my. We're gonna have a standing, you know, quick conversation on Monday morning to then outline the things that like my priorities for what she's working on on my behalf. And that's really. I think that is. I think it's. It's off. Gina Wickman would be proud seeing some structure in things here.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's really. Yes. I mean the thing is that it's probably not. You get a lot done. I mean, my experience of you is that you get a lot done, but it has more to do with the. Does it feel good getting the things done? You know.

Dean: Right. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah, that's what we did. You know what, I just sent off the dedication for the new Hay House book, which is the gap in the game. And I said, you know, this. The gap in the game isn't to teach people goal setting or goal achievement. It's not to give them ambition, you know, or anything like that. They're born with that. These are people who are born goal setters and goal achievers and you know, and they, they're very successful at solving problems. They're very successful at creating new things. The only problem is that they missed all the classes on any of that. Making them happy.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: The way in which you get things done as part of. Yeah, there's the achievement itself, which is a measurable outcome, but there's also the, the experience that you have in getting the thing done. And that can be an unhappy Experience.

Dean: Yeah, yeah, it's one of those, it's one of the. We talked about it with my. Our. Excuse me, our. Go Go Agents, you know, is the blend of, of daily joy, abundant time and financial peace. Those three things. Those three, you get the right amount of squirts of those three and anything is possible, but you get out of whack. You know, if people are in under financial stress, then their time feels like they need to, you know, they have, I think, an unusual sense of a lack of time because they feel the pressure of, I've got to make this money. I'm in this position where I need to.

Dan: Yeah, I gotta hurry. Yeah, yeah, I was just, you know, because we're getting to the point where plans are really being made and October is, you know, you know, you know, we're live back to in person, both backstage, you know, running of the country and also the company and the front stage, the, you know, the workshops. And so we were just talking, you know, with. I get a lot of talking time with my team. So before every workshop there's a half hour, you know, you meet with the team a half hour before the workshop starts. But now with Zoom, I say, yeah, but open it up at, you know, 10 minutes before the official team starting time. You know, so usually it's about if it's 9 o' clock or 10 o', clock, which usually my due dates 9 in Toronto, 10 Central Time. Then I get on about 20 minutes after the previous hour. So it's 40 minutes and then we have about a half hour afterwards and we chat about things and, and you know, they were, we were just having a general discussion about what kind of transition is going to be after a solid year, 16 months, 15 months now of Zoom, strictly zoom. And what's it going to feel like? And I said, I really enjoy, I say, I have to tell you, I've really, really enjoyed a Zoom only year because there's no sense of wasted time getting from one thing to another. I have no sense of wasted time. And I said, and just imagining going back and you leave the house and then there's, you know, might be 20 minutes, it might be 35 or 40 minutes before we arrive at the office. And then there's 10 minutes to get from the car to getting settled. And I said, I have to tell you, I experienced that all as wasted time.

Dean: Yeah. Even though you think about it, for years, 25 years, you've had, you haven't driven, you've had, you've, you've been. Have the car service For.

Dan: Yeah, all that.

Dean: To have that time. So you can. I don't know what you do. Read. What. What is what?

Dan: I read. Yeah. I chat. Depending on the driver, I'll chat. And, you know, sometimes somebody else is with me. So we, you know, we talk, but, you know, where. It's, you know, it's just that I just experienced it as kind of not as enjoyable time.

Dean: I get it. Yeah.

Dan: I was someplace and I would go on, you know, I go on the Internet and read articles, or I'd work on a project. Let's say those 40 minutes. 40 minutes. I would. You know, I would. I could do full chapter of a book outline. I could do a chapter of a book outline. And, you know, I'd be in the. I'd be in the matter. Yeah, I'd be in the cafe. I'd get a. You know, I'd get it. You know, I get a coffee and, you know, I'd have the music on and everything like that. And so, you know, it's. I'm just going to keep track of, like, the first month. So if we go back in October, I'm. I'm going to keep a journal. It's going to be my transition journal. And I'm going to just notice what I notice about the contrast between what I've experienced since the.

Dean: Well, where do you start the clock for Chicago? You know, I mean, that. You start the clock with the.

Dan: Yeah, well, the limousine pickup. Well, no.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Packing. Because you have to pack, you know.

Dean: Do you have somebody that packs for you?

Dan: Nah, I. I'm really good. I mean, it takes me.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: You know, it takes me. I mean, what is there. There's socks, there's underwear, you know.

Dean: Yeah, right.

Dan: Your toilet kit.

Dean: I don't know what's in there, but Courtney does it also. I just. I look.

Dan: Yeah. And there's some. But I have a. I have another wardrobe in Chicago. Right, like that. But Babs. Babs. You know, it's a longer thing. So there's about two hours, then we leave. Three hours before we leave the house. Three hours before the flight leaves. Because I can't stand being rushed. I can't stand being rushed, you know, so there's five hours before the plane leaves, you know, pulls back and starts the trip. And then. Yeah, you know, it's. It's an hour flight, but actually it's, you know, it's probably 20 minutes on one end and 20 minutes on the other end. So it's, you know, it's almost two hours. And then you get there so the whole thing, you know, is we're. We're talking, you know, about eight or nine hours and it's kind of meaningless. It's kind of meaningless time.

Dean: Did you ever, by the way, Dan, I've forgotten. Get to experiment with the airport escort service that I

Dan: know? Because we have. We had our own personal, you know, we had our own personal thing for a long time. And yeah, you know, it was just something that we were, you know, it wasn't that big a deal.

Dean: Right.

Dan: One of the, our. The one of the red caps, you know, if the thing picks us up and.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: And. And so. So it wasn't that big a deal. I mean, if I had. We hadn't had that beforehand, I would definitely have done it. Yeah, yeah.

Dean: No, I didn't know whether you had tried it at another airport because they, they do like 300 different airports or something.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: But anyway, that.

Dan: All that friction there, again, the whole thing with that technology is going to put people out of work. Humans are going to find infinite new ways of being useful to each other.

Dean: Amen. I agree with you.

Dan: Huh? No, they are.

Dean: Yes, I agree. I mean, and that's part of it is being useful. Like, you know, this Kelsey that I talked to for the, the accountability, you know, she's one of many of the accountability coaches, but there's an example, you know, she's somewhere in Texas and, you know, is a useful, helpful part of something that you can tap into. I mean, it's just. And this is the thing, you could be anything. You can offer your service as part of anything. This is the great capability. Yeah, this is the great capability.

Dan: Well, the other thing about it, you know, it's a hard model to control because if someone is really good at this, they put in a year with whatever. What's the name of the company again?

Dean: The company is called Commit Action.

Dan: Commit Action. Okay. Yeah. So somebody who's really good at this, you know, they. They've got fact. I think fact finder follow through is

Dean: probably a pretty yell.

Dan: Colby. Okay. Yes. And there's just as many of them as there is anything else in the Colby world. So you do it, let's say. And yeah, you can, I guess they can do it at their own hours or according to who they're.

Dean: I guess they get a calendar. They've got a calendar. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. So you get really good at this and people say, you know, I really like you. There's nothing to stop that person from just going private with 20 clients or 20 customers, you know, you know, so, you know, so it's like Uber, you know, why Uber? You know, kind of. I think that their first three years were better than the last three years with Uber. Yeah. In other words, if you take your experience, first of all, they were top notch drivers. The other thing was they were top notch cars and they weren't over expanding as a company. Okay. So anyway, but about three years ago we had, we were going from Park Ridge in our, you know, out our suburb of Chicago to downtown. And we were going to be downtown. We sort of clumped a whole bunch of stuff together, mostly medical stuff. And we probably had four different appointments during, during the day. We were down there for about maybe six, seven hours. And we had four and we had lunch, everything else. And so we were talking about it and I was just going over the schedule and the driver said, well, so are you gonna, you're probably going to be taking taxi or something for all these. And we said yes. He says, I'll tell you what, he says, I'll just take you to all your. He says, I'll just give you a price and I'll just do all of your pickups and deliveries throughout the day and then I'll bring you back. You coming back home? And we said yes. And he says, what? You know, he says you're coming back at the end of the afternoon. We said, yeah. So we was basically nine to five, eight hours. He said, I'll, I'll pick you up, I'll do it all. And the interesting thing is he says, I'll go off Uber while I'm doing that. I'll just give you a special price. And, and, and I said, so when you're down there, are you going to be on Uber? He says, yeah. He says if it's, you know, he says if it's because we compete on the ride.

Dan: So I can do downtown Chicago, you know, short runs, 15 minutes, half hours, senior calls, but he says, I'll get four or five, you know, five or six, you know, and he was playing the system and.

Dean: Yeah, yeah,

Dan: I mean, Uber can't really tell because Uber can only. I mean, I guess they can, but you know, they, it's, you participate in their system to the degree that you want to participate in their system.

Dean: Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a tricky. Again, it is a tricky thing, right? Like that's.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Because they wouldn't even have met you otherwise, you know, interesting. But that's, you know, again, it's the one thing you count on is people doing things in their Self interest.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Evidence.

Dan: Adams. Adam Smith. Adam Smith, yeah. Is what Adam Smith said. Yeah, yeah. But it was really nice guy. He was a really nice guy, you know, I mean, he, you know, he wasn't, you know, he just did what he said he was going to do and dropped his.

Dean: Right.

Dan: And, and, and, you know, so it was, I was thinking, you know, that's pretty good. And it was the pricing mechanism of the marketplace that he was following that since he wasn't going to be on Uber, he eliminated Uber's take from the total, total amount of time. He said, well, I'm not going to charge you, you know, the Uber price. I'll just charge you and I'll give you a flat rate for the whole, for the whole, you know, for the whole time. I said, that's great.

Dean: Great, isn't it?

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: And that's the thing is this is the, where we're coming into now is the, the great, you know, if we think about the, the VCR formula, vision capabilities reach that there's, there's a whole host of capability organizers that are at our disposal now. You know, and these platforms are allowing us as visionaries to tap into any of those capabilities. They're all commoditized. You know, like, I look at that, that's why I look at. Commit Action is an accountability capability that is on demand, basically. Right?

Dan: Yep, yep, yep. Yeah. And the, the other thing, it's taking what is, you know, originated as a form of management. You know, you would only get the benefit of this if you were in somebody else's management system, like you were an employee. Okay. And then you would have someone who would be a manager to a certain extent. The person who's putting you on the schedule and talking to you and reminding you it's a manager. It's a manager. But you're only doing it for your reasons. You're not doing it for anybody else's reasons. The commitment. You're making this to yourself and you're allowing another capability to assist you with fulfilling a purpose that you designed for yourself.

Dean: Yeah. For $299 a month.

Dan: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's, I mean, you have a report to make, Dean Jackson, you have a report to make at the next, at the next free zone.

Dean: Right. I mean, this is, I think I've really been observing now these whole. And an interesting distinction. You know, I think I mentioned, I don't know whether I mentioned to you that Mr. Beast Burger now is up over 600 locations.

Dan: 70. I think you said yeah, yeah.

Dean: So they've gone beyond. More than doubled in the first six months and new developments in that whole virtual dining concept world. There's another. Another player, C3. I forget what. The three Cs are different than your four Cs, but they are campy as. But the new term that we've heard now is. Is host kitchens, not ghost kitchens now, because these are host kitchens, meaning they're existing and this is just tapping into the excess capacity. And so that's really been the evolution of it is, you know, you look at it now over the last. It can't be more than five or six years, although it feels like it's been around for a long time. It feels like it's happened quickly. It's probably five, I think, 2016, when I first started talking about the ghost chicken, ghost kitchen, ghost restaurant. Yeah. And you look at that as the evolution of it. Where it's gone full circle now to host kitchens is people with capabilities putting them on the. You know, putting them out there that people can take advantage of them. It's just such a. I mean, so efficient. It's really. What's happening, Dan, is all the. All the slack is being removed.

Dan: Well, it's kind of like that action is kind of like ghost management. Like ghost.

Dean: Yes, that's exactly. Host management. Right, exactly.

Dan: Ghost or host, whichever word you want to use. But it's only one native, and only for my. Only for my purposes.

Dean: Yes, exactly.

Dan: And yet it's personal. You're not talking to a computer.

Dean: That's right. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. And I have to tell you, I mean, periodically, I'll hear Siri and Alexa, you know, in the background with somebody. Somebody's talking. And I said, yeah, yeah. I said, and now I don't think I'll even have a first date. You know, I don't. I just don't feel it's like the. The sort of the woman's face that appears on the screen at Abundance360. Samantha. Samantha. And I call her creepy Creepy Sam, you know.

Dean: Right. Yeah. I don't like that at all. You're right.

Dan: Yeah. I said really creepy. I just find her really, really creepy creepy. You know, it's a bit like Hal. You know, it's a little bit like. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I forget what the guy's name. What are you doing? You know, I forget the. The pilot's name on the.

Dean: Yeah, right. David.

Dan: What are you doing? David? Yeah.

Dean: What?

Dan: David, what. What do you think you're. What do you think you're doing, David? David, you know, yeah, David, I suggest you take a stress pill and let's talk about this, you know, and everything like that, you know. And I said, you know, I was saying, I was just, I wrote someone, it was about, you know, the alpha predator who runs a, one of the social media companies. I won't, I won't name him online here because we might get, we might get, we might get canceled here, but one of the alpha predators who has, you know, created a vast social media. And I said, a lot of people are beginning to understand that this person has the nervous system of the terminator. You can't reason with it, you can't plug in with it. The only thing, the only way you can ultimately solve the problem is by putting them under the machine pressure and the lights go out and the red lights go out. So I said, this is the only solution to this, you know. And I, but people thought it was really, really funny. And I said, yeah, but, you know, I mean, there's humans who before would be Genghis Khan or Adolf Hitler or, you know, Ivan the Terrible or, you know, some super predator, but we found sort of commercial business ways to direct their energy. But they have the same instincts.

Dean: Yeah, it's amazing.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. And well, you know, at a certain point you have to fence them in. You know, you gotta, you gotta tame these beasts and you know, if they, they start misusing their powers and it's annoying, but I, I really like, like this and I. It would be really, really useful for you to give a little, you know, because you'll have about a month more experience with it every time of year and you know, just put together a little, you know, just a little, you know, a little intro on that. That'd be great.

Dean: Yeah, happy to do it. The, you know, speaking about now, the. All the slack time, you know, I've been doing all the breakthrough blueprints virtually and I mentioned I've got one starting tomorrow. So this, here we are today. This is already starting this, I bet, you know, 4 o' clock this afternoon that starts. Clock. I've got to now, you know, drive over to Celebration and I'll be there till Wednesday. I'm in my courtyard right now sitting on my white couch too, where we've been recording all morning. Yeah, yeah, it's just a beautiful morning out here. And so now to be right back here, I'm going completely out of my environment, out of my bubble here to go over there, you know, from 4:00 on today until probably 7:00 clock on Wednesday, you know, that's like a whole. So that's 24, 48, 72, 98 hours, I guess, or something. Right. Almost 100 hours of being out of the bubble here.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, it's very really interesting and it'll be consciousness raising because when in our lives have we ever had a contrast where we could compare one type of experience with another type of experience as we have now.

Dean: Right.

Dan: Both before going. But we were abruptly interrupted last year. Here we're preparing for it for a long time.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And. Yeah. And so I think our consciousness and our insights would be sharper, you know, they'll. We'll collect more insights and you know, but I got a feeling, as you know, I mean, except for the people who died, which, you know, is another thing, but it's almost like the whole world's been sent to boot camp, you know.

Dean: Yes. And yeah, you're absolutely right to have

Dan: an opportunity to become conscious about certain things, whether they did or not is another question. But you were given the opportunity to become conscious of comparing one kind of experience with another kind of experience in a way that has never been as clear cut and at the same time it's never as been as a collective whole of humanity has been able to have this experience. Very unusual experience.

Dean: Mm.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Yeah. I mean, but it's funny, you and I taking it to ducks like water, as they say.

Dan: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've been ready since. You've been ready since third grade.

Dean: Yeah. So this is, this is awesome. But I mean, that's gonna be. It'll be good to see people in person. I haven't seen. Oh yeah. Any of these people.

Dan: Yeah. See how much poking there is before.

Dean: I wonder if it feels comfortable, what that's gonna be. Yeah.

Dan: Are you really there? One of our team members came to the house last week picking up something and you know, and I said, can I touch you? And I poked, I poked her arm. I said, oh, interesting. Interesting.

Dean: Yeah. Squishy. Yes, exactly. That's so funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: It would be funny like when you get together at 4 o', clock. Just what the buzz is for, like the first 15 minutes or so, you know, when people gather. Yeah. I think it's going to be one of your more fascinating blueprints.

Dean: I agree 100%. Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. I think there will be more reflecting on the two worlds in this next three days than they've ever done at any previous one.

Dean: Yeah, I think so. That's going to be a good portion of it. I'm going to. Actually, my accountability session is tomorrow morning at 9:20, which is, you know, 20 minutes after the events are. So 20 minutes in, I'm actually going to turn my laptop around. I'm going to show them. We're going to go through my accountability thing right there. I'll let them just sit in on it as I do it because it's only. It'll be a short 10 minute.

Dan: That'd be great. If we can get our timing right. If we can get our timing right on the free zone. Whether you can do that.

Dean: Oh, maybe I can talk to my Kelsey and see if she'd be available to kind of do what?

Dan: Yeah, it's on a Tuesday. It's on it. Yeah, it's on it. It's on a Tuesday.

Dean: So are we on Tuesday?

Dan: Okay, yeah, I think. Yeah, I'll just. Yeah, but it would be interesting to do it because that would. Yeah, you know, that would be massive. Yeah, that'd be massively interesting, people.

Dean: Yeah. Worst case scenario, I can screen capture. I'll do a. The video of my.

Dan: Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean: Anyway, well, it's all very exciting. Dan, I'm going to email you at some point here. I want to set up. I really miss our Jacques.

Dan: Oh, yeah.

Dean: Conversation experience. So I'd love to do zoom brunch with you one day here. Oh, yeah, I'll email you and we can set that up.

Dan: I can do that. Yeah. The next Sunday is cottage day, so we won't be doing it next, but it'll be the Sunday afternoon.

Dean: That'll be great. We'll be in Palm beach, so.

Dan: Yeah, perfect. Okay.

Dean: We'll have been freshly rejuvenated next time we talk.

Dan: Okay, bye.

Dean: Okay, thanks, Dan. Bye.