Learning about AI learning

Dean: Welcome to Cloudlandia, Mr. Sullivan.

Dan: Mr. Jackson. The reason I'm late is because I pressed the wrong number and then someone answered and they wouldn't let me off the phone.

Dean: Oh.

Dan: So, you know, it's. I can't say it's a new Cloudlandia experience. It's a very old Cloudlandia experience.

Dean: Oh, that's so funny.

Dan: It's like a flat tire. Yeah, like a flat tire or the engine overheated. You know, something like that.

Dean: I ended up this. I had an adventure this week with my Tesla. Tuesday morning I've been. I've got that blocked in my calendar now as my studio morning. So I go in from 10 o' clock till 12 o'. Clock. I've got booked for podcasts at the recording studio. And Tuesday morning I got up, I went. I usually stop over at the Honeycomb Cafe on my way. And I was leaving the house, I'm on my way and coming out the gate of Valhalla, and I saw this little notification on my screen that said acceleration and speed limited. And I thought, oh, was I too enthusiastic coming out of the. Are they like monitoring me and telling, slow down, buddy? But it turns out when I got to Honeycomb, I went in and had coffee. It came back out and then nothing. The car wouldn't go into gear. It wouldn't do anything. It was like, you know, you're stuck, basically. There's no way. It's not like the engine doesn't turn over. It's just nothing was. Nothing would happen. So I had to, you know, I had a podcast scheduled at 10 o' clock and it's, you know, 20 to 10 now. So I called, I got on Uber and I got. Had an Uber come and pick me up and take me to the studio. And while I was there, I called Lillian and told her what happened and said I needed her to be the who on this. So she got on with Tesla and had roadside assistance come and they checked it out. Then they took the car to Tampa to the Tesla center and turns out I need a new battery. Like the big battery, you know, something occasionally those, the batteries fail so full still covered under warranty and everything. But that was a, that was an interesting experience. And now it's. I've got a. They gave me a. A loner that's, you know, the same ex like you guys have. So now I have a new loaner and hope soon we'll have a new battery in mind. But just the whole, you know, I've just been observing things lately and noticing how like Cloudlandia, these things really are. Like, really?

Dean: The fact that I'm stuck on the mainland and I needed to move my meat robot over to the studio to be there in person, and I just went on up into Cloudlandia and said, hey, Uber, come get me. I need a ride over here. And they were there and took me there. And you know, Lillian, who Not how, it was a great in both who Not Howlandia and who not how, because I didn't want to have to. I didn't have to deal with any of it. I just said, lillian, here's what happened. Good luck.

Dan: what happens to those. I wonder what happens to those batteries when they're heavy.

Dean: They're pretty big.

Dan: They weigh a thousand pounds. I mean, they. Yeah, they're a substantial battery.

Dean: You know, it's the whole bottom of the car. It's like a big skateboard, isn't it? Is that what we are sitting on top of? A big electric battery?

Dan: Yeah, you have a battery with four wheels.

Dean: Yeah, that's really what it is. Yeah.

Dan: I wonder what, I mean, is there a graveyard? Is there, you know, is there a deep mine?

Dean: I don't know. Is there a rehabilitation process for them?

Dan: Yeah, I just wonder. I just wonder, you know, I know it takes a lot to make one of them. I was reading an article that said that they're from 17 different countries. £500,000 of original material are needed for the process of getting the ingredients for a thousand pound battery. So there's a lot.

Dean: It's funny. Michael Moore. Michael Moore did a documentary about the green energy app. Things where, like really showing how much stuff. How much stuff it requires, how much resources it takes to create an electric vehicle. And then nobody really comments on the actual what it takes to make the electricity that powers it. You know, it's just so.

Dan: Yeah, it was interesting this. This week I was paying attention to some of the articles that popped up with nuclear fusion. You know, this was nuclear fusion week. And apparently at Lawrence Livermore Labs in Berkeley, California, they had tested and repeatedly tested and got a result which kind of indicates that you actually can sometime in the future, get dull power out of nuclear fusion. And this is different from nuclear fission, which we've been getting, you know, we've been getting large amounts of energy out of since the atom bomb in 1945. But anyway, but everybody was excited about this and all of a sudden a whole bunch of articles appear. Free, unlimited clean energy just around the corner but the corner is for when I put a whole bunch of articles together. Seems maybe around 2050. Maybe 2050. Yeah. So it's kind of interesting how Oprah hope reigns eternal, you know, when you know, you create something new. But they, you know, they. The process of getting the breakthrough from its first proof in the lab to getting it available on your light switch is still a ways away.

Dean: Yeah, I saw,

Dan: I call it a dazzling possibility. Yeah, it's in the realm of a dazzling possibility.

Dean: I saw an interesting chart in the Economist that showed the deadliest sources of power, kind of thing like coal is at the top of the list. The most fatalities from coal. But nuclear is way down at the bottom along with solar. But I believe I wanted to say solar was above, wind was the lowest and then nuclear and then solar because apparently, you know, people fall, people die falling off roofs, installing the solar panel. There's actually more people die from solar than nuclear and nuclear. It's because the, you know, you think of Chernobyl, the real, the death toll in CHERNobyl was about 100 people I think.

Dan: But yeah, the world total since 1945, if you don't count the two bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the world total of deaths from Nuclear is under 200. Chernobyl. Chernobyl would be a big chunk of that. And, and the U.S. navy, which has been using nuclear since 1955, I think that all their aircraft carriers and all of their submarines. 1955 have been nuclear. You know, they switched over and they, I don't think they'd had any deaths related to the submarines or anything on the submarines.

Dean: Submarines. Like am I to understand this, right, that these nuclear submarines are just self perpetuated, that they don't need to refueled, you don't need any add anything to it that they're self, I mean with the nuclear generator.

Dan: A nephew of mine was on a nuclear sub. You know, his total tour, you know, the different times he was out, he was, he had a 25 year naval career and he, it was all on naval subs. And he said theoretically. Yeah, well you shouldn't even be listening in on my conversation. Siri. Really actually kind of rude actually. And any. Anyway, anyway, he said theoretically they go seven or eight years without refueling, but they do check up on things because humans, humans can't go seven or eight years without coming up for a break, you know. Right, right, right, yeah, yeah. And the aircraft carriers are about the same. I think it's seven or eight years before they need a complete, you know, they have to Be in port, you know, for three or four months to handle it. And anyway. But yeah, I mean theoretically they can just for wartime purposes, their eternal mach. The whole war, yeah, they can go the whole war. The whole war, yeah. And they build the reactor first and then they build the ship around the reactor. So if that goes in the dry docks where they build these things, the reactor goes in and then everything else is built around it. And now we've got a client in Wyoming who is now building the new TerraPower. I think that's Bill Gates project and he's got contracts for five of them in Wyoming. And they're, you know, they're, they're not probably as big as your entire house. They're probably not big as your entire house. And the neat thing about them, first of all, they use spent nuclear fuel. So they found a way of getting extra oomph out of power that's already been disposed with from big, big nuclear plants. And then they have a way of reprocessing that and then the power that comes from that. So it's got much. It can't explode and it can't melt down and everything else. So they, first of all, I mean it's interesting they've found another use for nuclear waste and but he's got contracts for five of them within the next, I think five years. They'll be built within five years.

Dean: Wow. It's amazing.

Dan: Yeah. And when you think about it, think about how much sense this makes because there's the company tsmc which is the top chip maker in the world and they're Taiwan company, they're building a new plant for 20,000 workers north of Phoenix in the United States and. Oh wow, Phoenix. Phoenix being a further distance from China than Taiwan.

Dean: Okay. Wow. Yeah, just a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: That'd be that being some of the rationale for building the, building the new factory. And Anyway, they have 20,000 and it's going to take a, you know, it's going to take a huge amount of electricity off the Arizona grid. I mean if it was just an ordinary factory. But chip making factories use two or three times the energy to, you know, to create the chips. So this, it would make sense just not to have that factory on the grid. You know, they would just have their own nuclear, nuclear reactor. You know, when Celebration, Celebration could just have its own nuke, you know, wouldn't have to be connected to the grid in Florida.

Dean: Yeah, I think there is a.

Dan: Okay, so Siri is really getting up to be today. Siri's Going, she, it's really going backward and she's going backward in evolution here. So I'm going to, I'm going to introduce her to a concept called deaf here. Just hold on a second. Yeah, I'm just, I'm, I've just effectively eliminated the existence of Siri.

Dean: There we go. Yeah. So I have a, I have an, A digital death.

Dan: She just suffered a digital death.

Dean: Perfect.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: I have a field report update for the VCR file and good. So the VCR formula of course, vision plus capability multiplied by reach. That's the formula. So my friend Jesse Desjardins who was used to work with me was one of the first, we were the first job that he had. He's a designer, was a designer when we first met him. But he went on to, you know, bigger things. He became the head of social media for Australia and turned the Australia, the social medias into the number one destination in the world. He was, you know, recognized as one of the 10 most powerful people in travel I think I've mentioned in the past. Now his current project is he is heading the social media for the NEOM project in Saudi Arabia where you know they're, they're basically bringing online a whole new region. You know, they've never developed this whole area and it's this, you know, magical wonderland in Saudi Arabia that they're essentially what Dubai did, you know, where they built the city from, nothing kind of thing. That's what they're planning to do out in Neom. And I've been watching you know, on Jesse, he's gone out like exploring the territory and stuff and showing the scenery out there. Like just the landscape is like another world. Like nothing. You know, it's like a combination of the most beautiful areas of like Sedona or Utah, the monument Red rock areas and, and the sun and everything about it is stunningly beautiful. But nobody's ever seen it. It's like going to Mars. It's like it's been isolated for so long nobody even knows what this is about. And so Jesse, he texted me, he used the VCR formula on this. So he had a vision that to get every, all eyes on Neom, on this whole region. So he had the vision for that. Then he thought to himself, okay, we need the capability and reach for this now. So he invited Getty Images, you know, the big commercial photography image, probably the top one in the world. So he invited Getty to send, invite their top 10 photographers to come and explore all of Neom and every one of those top 10 photographers has, you know, millions of reach individually on all the people who follow their stuff along with Getty.

Dean: So, you know, he invites all those people, you know, who not how and VCR formula combination there is inviting all of those people to explore and document Neon. And then they're there. They were there just last. Just last week doing all this hunting of the thing. So it'll reach to millions of people now where people will be seeing for the first time this whole region of Saudi Arabia. I thought that was pretty brilliant. You know, he consciously set out to apply the VCR formula to this and that was what he came up with.

Dan: I thought this was based on conversations with you about the formula.

Dean: Yeah, absolutely.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And so that pretty. I was so. I was like a proud papa there, you know, seeing my boy coming up with these great ideas. It's so good. I was Jesus Father Ivan is a good friend my age. And we. That's how I met Jesse is. Ivan and I were real estate agents together in Georgetown. We came up at the same time. We were the young guys then. But then, you know, he had Jesse. So Jesse was. When he first started working with us, he was 18, you know, developing. But I was joke with Ivan, we get, you know, co ownership of Jesse if I claim him as my boy, you know.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: But it's so great to see. So great to see.

Dan: Yeah. Well, the other thing which I'm sure has come to your notice, but it's just popped up really big among some of the other Free Zone Clients is from OpenAI, this new, oh my goodness tool, the Chat GP GP GT GTB and. But yeah, Mike Koenix and I had a podcast with it yesterday afternoon and we actually invited the technology in as our third partner going forward on our podcast. And what we'll do is we'll go. We have everything on Otter AI, which means the. Our, you know, our talking is recorded by outer AI. And then we went through something and it was kind of significant so we stopped and Mike, just while we were right on air, just pulled off the transcript from AI and then he put in some directions for it to turn it into a little sales letter. And it was actually very good. It was actually the, you know, you just instruct the chat. The chat AI and that says, I want a really upbeat sort of punchy sales letter and with the five most important bullet points of it. And I came up and Mike made a few more adjustments and we did it. And I said, I think we're going to have this as a offer, you know, we'll have an offer on the podcast that, you know, if you. Sam, we'll send you the, you know, we'll send you the output that the AI program makes and on each episode we'll have. You can see it. And the other one I did is he did a. He did a little biography of me.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: Before I came on. And then he showed me and it was really well written. The facts were all wrong. I mean. I mean, he had me belonging to organizations that I've never been to and having a war. Words from organizations I never had. I mean, if you didn't know the truth. Very convincing. If you didn't know the truth. I love it.

Dean: To say it with confidence.

Dan: Extremely. Yeah. Extremely well articulated lies.

Dean: I'll put it that way from that.

Dan: And yeah, so I. I want that. And then we went back and corrected the memory thing else. And I said, can you write it as if Donald Trump had written it? And about three minutes later. And it was really good. I mean, it was really good. I mean, you know, and that. The last sentence is, Dan Sullivan in his work is going to save America.

Dean: It's going to save America. He's been tremendously successful with helping entrepreneurs. Backbone of America.

Dan: Yeah. So. So anyway, I found Eddie and then my tech team leader, Glenn Roberts was here two days in our middle house here because they had a EOS meeting. So. The implementer. Yeah. Oh, she's, you know, she's at me. She's like. She's like a stalker.

Dean: Oh, my goodness.

Dan: Yeah, she's like a stalker. Dean. I don't know what to do here. I'm gonna put. I have a refrigerator. I'm gonna take my watch over and I'm gonna put it in the freezer. And I'm

Dean: like, she's obsessed with you, dad.

Dan: Yeah. I mean, she's a stalker, you know, a digital stalker, you know, so. Yeah. And worse than that, she doesn't understand, you know, which is even worse. Someone's stuck.

Dean: I understand you.

Dan: That's the problem theory.

Dean: If you don't even see that.

Dan: Yeah, that's been mostly her. That's been mostly her pickup line so far. I don't understand you. Could you repeat what she said? I don't think that's a good pickup line. Anyway. Yeah, so anyway, but I was, you know, I went on YouTube and I watched some short YouTubes on this G. GPB. GTB.

Dean: GPT.

Dan: Yeah, GBT. Yeah, the GBT. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's. It seems, you know, it seems kind of revolutionary actually. You know, It. But boy, you really have to know what you want, you know. And so the world is filled with people who don't know what they want. So they're. If they use this, they will multiply the number of things that they don't want.

Dean: Well, I think that you just hit it on the head. That's, you know, it's the thing. I think part of the reason that if we think about the imagine if you plied your. You applied yourself formula.

Dan: Yes.

Dean: That the imagine is the first part that you can't even. You gotta start with imagine. If you can't imagine it, then how are you gonna apply it, you know?

Dan: Yeah. So.

Dean: Yeah, but that really takes the capability, you know, really multiplies your capabilities there. Somebody was like, our minds are not even equipped yet to wrap around what the potential of this is. Yeah. Like where I saw somebody.

Dan: Well, I think my. My solution to it, because I am going to do it, but I'm going to have Glenn, who has already mastered how you get on and how you have the different. But I'm going to have him between me and the technology and I'm just going to write little fast filters and say, you know, this is what I would like a. You know, I would like a AI that can do this type of writing. Okay. And he'll go back and forth with me. So it's my typical approach to all technology generally. I want a smart human between me and the technology.

Dean: I was thinking the same thing. I spent. I spent a little time yesterday morning playing around with it. And I was asking, I said, you know, my question was, tell me about the history of the printing press. And then it went, you know, back to the earliest times that talked about Gutenberg and when all these things. And I look at it because then I asked who. What was the word that I used? But who commercialized printing or who were the first businesses to emerge after printing. And it was talking about, you know, newspapers and book publishing and how that all emerged out of the thing. And then I said, what was the first newspaper? It started telling me about the Daily Current in London in the 1600s and by this gentleman. And so I just look at it as a very conversational, you know, research Sherpa in a way.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Like if you think about.

Dan: Yeah, I was. Mike and I were talking about who gets impacted by the. Right away. And I think it's Google and Wikipedia.

Dean: Get.

Dan: Get impacted by this because it seems to me that it's going to be attractive to people who are searchers, you know, that. That have Questions and, you know, want to have it more that they're doing it with a companion, you know, that as a responsive companion will do that. I mean. I mean, found that. First of all, I checked in with Socrates on your referral. I contacted say I Program.

Dean: Did you tell him to drop my name?

Dan: Yeah, no, I didn't. I didn't. Yeah, because I. Yeah, it's not like you're a friend of Bill, you know, it's different. So anyway, I. I asked him what was his take on intellectual property and what was really interesting because if they're going to be at all truthful about these characters, they can't have knowledge outside of their historic time. You know, they. And he grappled with it. He grappled with it, you know, and he came back by asking me all sorts of questions. He says, you're talking about ideas that are property, right? And I said, yeah, that's the correct. And he said, well, you sure you're not being delusional about this, that your ideas can actually be sold as property? And I said, well, where I live. And I said, in the time I'm living in, this is a pretty straightforward activity and it's credentialed and verified by the government. He says, well, is it. You know, there's all kinds of different governments. And so the thing was, what I had the sense being just in relationship to the specific document topic that I fed in, that it was maximizing the content that I was giving to it and then coming back with. Which were pretty. Well, there. There wasn't anything where I hadn't given the clue. You know, I hadn't given the clue.

Dean: I got it. I was very impressed with. I was very impressed with.

Dan: I thought it was very artful. I thought it was very artful. You know, it was. I mean, it was very sophisticated. And, you know, I've had. I've interacted with dumber human beings.

Dean: Yes, that's true. And theory. Yeah, yeah, theory.

Dan: That's. That's in Siri. Yeah.

Dean: Well, no, the thing that I was. Somebody pointed out to me that they had seen a video of this guy going, one of the. You know, there's different, differently abled AI now. So it went to one that was. Got some. It's a. Write a song about this topic, you know, so they wrote like the lyrics to a song about this topic. And so he got that. Then he went to another AI and had it write, you know, a song. Write the music for a song, you know, with this type of instruments and this type of tone. And, you know, timing and everything. And then he went to another AI that was like a voice AI and had it, you know, record the vocals on the thing and they mixed it all together and it became this, you know, he created a song basically from just his whim, you know, being able to describe. And I think that's really at the essence of what we're doing. I often think about your 25 year commitment to writing what you want every day. And, you know, I think that level of just even asking that question hones that muscle of identifying what you want. I think that I've been, I've lovingly started calling the whole whatmanship. You know, it's like the key to who not how is being a good. What's been, you know, knowing what you want.

Dan: Actually, yeah, it's very interesting. I introduced a new tool into the free zone on this would have been Thursday, two hours, it was in the afternoon. And it's a new tool and it's set up, you know, it's a, you know, standard looking strategic coach tool. But the title is 10 unique differentiators. And then you have 10 boxes and you'd be very familiar with the format, but there's two columns, so there's one through 10. And each number has two boxes with two different things that you put in each box. The first box is what your uniqueness is and then the second box is how this differentiates you in the marketplace as an entrepreneur. And I did 10 of mine. Mine were in the form of tools, you know, they, I would, you know, and I used the Voda formula, you know, that's thinking Voda based thinking about your thinking that, you know, it would be basic design formula for strategic coach tools is you have a vision. And then once you've stated the vision with a date and you know, given some numbers to the vision, then you come back to the O, which is the obstacle. So B for vision, O for obstacles. And then this is everything that doesn't support this future result. And then you take each of the obstacles and you have a transformation that you have to make a decision. You have to stop doing something, you have to start doing something, you have to communicate something. So it's a, so it's vision, opposition, transformation, action, and that closes the cycle. And so essentially all those things which seem to oppose your goals are actually the raw material for achieving your goals. So I put that down and, and then I put a few others, I put a few others down. And the point of this is that it's a forever tool. I Got the other people on the call to do make a. Take a crack at two or three where they're doing something unique and by developing this in the course of their life. And I said, most of you are probably doing this when you were five or six, but you didn't have a business model for it.

Dan: And now you're, you know, now you're using a lifelong uniqueness, and now you're using it to differentiate yourself in the marketplace. And I went around and I just volunteered for about seven or eight of them. What I thought I saw as something unique, they did. And that how they had reported that they actually differentiated in the marketplace. And so everybody did it. And then they. And then they went into breakout groups, and they talked about what they'd gotten out of it. And then we came back and we talked about in the general session, and it was probably as good at two hours as I've had in 33 years. People.

Dean: Suddenly somebody Was this. Was this a free zone or 10 times?

Dan: Pre free zone? Yeah. Free zone.

Dean: I'm surprised I missed it. I remember.

Dan: Yeah, it was Thursday, I think it was. Yeah, it was Thursday afternoon, Eastern time.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Anyway, but I said. And I. And they said, now what do we do with the tool? And I said, well, we'll revisit it on a quarterly basis. And it's like you got something stuck in your tooth right now. Your tongue isn't going to let me let go of this, you know, now you're going to be bouncing this model that you're creating off your actual experience. Okay. And then you'll rewrite it. You'll rewrite it every quarter. And. But. And, you know, somebody said, well, what if there's 11? I said, no, I'm sorry, it's 10. Yeah. You know, and I said, 11 won't do you. If 10 isn't doing you any good, 11 won't make it better, you know, But I said, what you're going to do is that you're going to keep refining distinctions. You know, that there's a certain something that you do, and none of us just do a one thing. We have a stack of, you know, unique things.

Dean: Like, Scott Adams talked about your talent.

Dan: Scott Adams, Yeah, yeah, The talent stack. Yeah. And. Yeah. And we, you know, so. And anyway. But all of a sudden, people got really centered, you know, that you could feel there was this centering going on. And it was, you know, I just finished the talk up on Tuesday, and I said, you know, I went to the college St. John's where you spend four years reading the great thinkers of the world from the Greeks right up till Einstein. And the whole point is that you get to know yourself as a result of this great thinking. And I said the last two hours, I never had a two hour discussion during the four years at St. John's that equaled the depth of understanding and insight of the two hours that we just went through. And part of the reason was, is that it was entirely an academic. You know, an academic setting where the teachers had been in. Were in their 50s and 60s, but had never been anywhere except school since they had, since they were five years old. And students were anywhere from 18 years old to, you know, 23. I was 27, I was older. But they didn't really have any world experience. You know, they hadn't really gone out and tried to put a price on their uniqueness in the marketplace. So anyway, but it was really interesting because remember when we spoke last week and you introduced me to the Socrates AI? Yeah. I said, you know, the AI that I would really like to have is the one with myself where I like to have a conversation with myself on an ongoing basis, where the. There is a record of what I've previously said and the AI can access things that I briefly said and says, you know, is this kind of like what you said before about this and this? And I think I would find that a very pleasing experience.

Dean: Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not think about. There's so much recorded. There's so much recorded stuff you think about, even just the podcast, just you, that you.

Dan: Just you and just what we've created together. There's hundreds of hours.

Dean: That's exactly right.

Dan: Yeah. Well, the funny thing, the new one, the you know, the new AI that we were talking about from Open. Open AI not accessing the Internet at all. They're just accessing the, the growing body of knowledge that we're not sure yet. We want to access the Internet as the body of the language.

Dean: Yeah. I saw the thing was, it was, you know, everything was frozen like in 2021 kind of thing. So it doesn't. Because it was gathered from, you know, every. Scanning everything kind of its base of knowledge is everything up to 2021.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: The is the thing so that I found that interesting too.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: But, you know, it dawned on me, Dan, is, you know, I've been thinking about the, you know, each step in the imagine if you applied yourself formula and there's a strategic coach tool for each of the things or tools. I mean, when you look at. Yeah. You know, imagine is Impact filters. What would this look. What would be the best thing will be the worst thing? Why are you thinking of this? What would it look like if it was all done and then immediately slide over to if. Okay, so if that's the vision, then that's immediately set up for the strategy circle. If that's going to be true, then what's in the way or what's the things that need to get done there? And then you.

Dan: Yeah, we have.

Dean: You were just describing your unique differentiator. But I'm most excited about this extended, extended and expansive vision of yourself, including your.

Dan: Well, yeah, this is what I'm getting.

Dean: Finances.

Dan: This is what I'm getting because it could cue you to remember experiences and then describe the experiences. And that would become part of the knowledge base of the AI would be things that you remember, but you get rewarded for, you know, you're getting a bigger and bigger reward for remembering things, you know, and, and doing. It's. It's a very fascinating. So I'm going to this clinic in Nashville, Tennessee, and it's with a returnee to strategic coach who started in the 10 times program about 10 years ago. And he came right back in. And he came right back into free zone. Dr. David Hassey. I don't know if you've ever met him. H A S E. And he's got a clinic in Nashville, which is now our top of the mountain overall clinic for all things medical and health care that we do. And we go for four a day. We go for four days every quarter. And the. It's general checkup and then it's a plasma exchange. So the first. Wow, two, two visits we make, they take all the blood out of your body, tenuously putting it back in, which is an important step. And. Yeah. And they take out your old plasma and they replace it with new, new plasma. Because at 78 years old, I've acquired a lot of heavy metals since I was a kid. You know, lots of fish and everything else. And that does not leave the body except through this particular process. So.

Dean: Wow.

Dan: So. So I've had to. It takes three or four hours to do it and. But anyway, one of the things shown up is brain scans is that he said, you know, if you look at your brain scans, it's really remarkable you're as successful as you are.

Dean: You're getting. You're doing all this with this brain. Take a look at. Hey, Bob.

Dan: Yeah. And I said, well, you know, there's workarounds, you know,

Dean: let me tell you a little something about who not how. Yeah, exactly.

Dan: Yeah. Let me tell you something about Adderall. So anyway, he said it's not. He said in what I'm going to tell you isn't going to affect your intelligence. So we're not talking about the intelligence of your brain, but he says it has to do with alignment of whether your brain is fully engaged in exactly what you're doing, you know, during your active hours and during your sleeping hours. And right now yours is significantly out of whack, you know, just by the scans. He says we can tell. So. And he says there's a great clinic and it just happens to be in Toronto who developed a new brain sensor device that they put on your head. You know, and it's lots of little sensors, but they're all coordinated in sort of. Sort of a net. So they can just put the net on and then just rearrange the sensors and then they have a 40 minute. It's called neuropotential. That's the name of the clinic, Neuropotential. And then they. The only thing you're doing during the 40 minutes after they put the. The sensor net on your head is that you're watching a movie of your choice. So I chose Lord of the Rings because it's a long movie. You know, it's three movies, about seven hours total.

Dean: So.

Dan: And you watch it and you're watching the movie and all of a sudden the screen goes dark and your. The sound goes up, but the movie is continuing to run, and it means that your brain went someplace else, it wasn't watching the movie. And the moment.

Dean: Oh, my God.

Dan: Their machine senses that the. And your brain gets alerted by this because you were getting a, an award for the movie, you know, because visually you were getting rewarded and from an audio standpoint, you're rewarded. And then it comes back on. And so first crack at it, I did number seven yesterday. I did. I did my seventh checkup, so. And so clinic to do this. Yeah, go to a clinic. They're up at the top of the. They're up at the top the Allen Expressway in Shepherd.

Dean: Right up.

Dan: Right, right.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know, I mean, we took extra oxygen and I made sure my shots.

Dean: You're really like expanding your territory here. You're going out. Yeah, yeah, Osteo. Going out to the. You're going out to the far reaches.

Dan: Yeah, I had my passport, I made sure my health card and everything was up to, up to date. And you know, you know who to call in case of, you know. So anyway, so I've gone Up there. And so I would say in the first 40 minute session, the movie went in and out about 15 times. Okay. Okay. So then. And you don't do anything. Your brain does it all. So there's no active effort or anything that you can do about it. Okay. And your brain will just adjust itself to come back and get back into the sight and sound of the movie. So anyway, then you come back for the second time and. And I went through the movie and almost no interruption during the second time. So I asked her how come there were no interruptions? And she said, well, that's how much your brain has improved from last time. So the second time through, we just start you off with the same level of programming as the last time, but we don't change it. And it means that as a result of the first movie, your movie has improved that much of staying with the movie.

Dean: Wow.

Dan: And then I came back for the third one and it was difficult again because now they've raised difficulty, raised the difficulty. And again, it was the same frequency of interruptions. And I did it. And then number four, I was good again. So my brain is getting better and better at doing this. But what I've noticed, I have an OURA ring, you know, for tracking sleep. And all of a sudden, usually my sleep, or the score for sleep is in the low 80s. And about five times during the last month I've been in the 90s, and I had never had 90 scores. Which means that when I'm sleeping, my brain is there. It's, you know, it's not.

Dean: You're not gonna, you know, this is. That's something. I track that too. And I'm usually in the low 80s or high 70s sometimes, and. But Lupa is almost always in the 90s, and she rocked up with a 99 the other day. I've never seen 99. Well, she's very high is 92.

Dan: Yeah. But first time I met, which was right where I'm sitting right now in the basement of our middle house here in Toronto. Luba is very serene. I mean, you can tell she's. She's kind of. Wherever she is, she's totally there.

Dean: Yeah, that's true.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And that was amazing. Yeah, she's a power sleeper.

Dan: Yeah. That would not be true for either you or me. Wherever we are, that's where we are,

Dean: I'll tell you.

Dan: But what I find about this is this is just a. An example of a digital feedback, you know, feedback machine where it's your own brain interacting with itself and making adjustments as A result of, you know, a stimulation.

Dean: And do they have a website or is there a name of this process or anything?

Dan: Well, it's just called Neuro. The clinic is called Neuropotential.

Dean: Neuropotential. Okay.

Dan: Yeah, one word. One word. Yeah. All lowercase and. Yes, right, right there. So the thing about this is that the idea that has been dawning since you gave me the Socrates AI last week and I just tested it out was that if you can have a deepening and deepening Cloudlandia knowledge base of your own thinking and then you can converse and you can chat with your own, I think that's, that's a better kind of educational system.

Dean: Yeah, that. I wonder what would be. Who would do that? Like where would you take.

Dan: Well, you know, you could check in with the people who are doing these characters and I don't know anybody, but you know, we have tech people and everything like that. So, you know, I'll just start a query and maybe it's OpenAI. You know, maybe there's services. Services.

Dean: How do I create a.

Dan: How do you create a digital beam?

Dean: Yeah, digital.

Dan: Digital. Digital Dean and Digital Dan. Yeah, we could have, and we could have a report each week on welcome to Cloudlandia of what, what we found out about ourselves the previous week.

Dean: I think that's amazing.

Dan: Yeah. But this kind of really. See, this is what I think the essence of education is, and that is that you gain maximum future benefit from your past experiences.

Dean: Yes, yes. I think that. Well, we are living in interesting times, as they say, for sure.

Dan: I was thinking about, I was talking with Mike Koenix yesterday and I said, you know, my experience of really well educated people, intelligent, well educated people, is not the ones who have the answers, but it's really the people who have the questions. And seems to me that this chat, you know, this chatbot in whatever form it shows up with, is probably a lot better than any teacher, actual living teacher or professor I've had in my entire life. When you ask a question, they engage with you fully and they keep asking you to clarify your question and keep supplying you with information. I can't remember, remember any teacher, any professor who had that capability.

Dean: Yeah, it's just getting better at those things. That's what I was doing with, with just getting better at the conversation. And that's going to be a matter of putting in reps, learning, you know, what is the most fruitful, you know, what yields result.

Dan: Yeah, the one thing I think I've just done a matrix comparison of the main ideas of Peter Diamantis with Peter Zion, I came up with 36 conflict points.

Dean: Oh, wow. Okay.

Dan: And the interesting thing about it is

Dean: you've read enough, you've read enough Peter Zion that you could, you know, moonlight as the Peter Zion bottom. Well, you could be the open AI.

Dan: Well, I've drawn some conclusions from his thinking that he doesn't. I'm not sure he draws these conclusions and shares, but one of them is if you thought the United States was in a good position before, you have no idea what's coming. Because everything in the world that a country could have that would be on its side, the US has it, you know, and, and the thing that really came is that I think the US is about to go into warp drive, you know, and I think. But even the thing like these AI chatbots, I bet the customers are 90American, you know, I bet 90% of the. So that this new chat bot from OpenAI, they had a million downloads in the first week. I said I bet 90% of them are Americans. And the other thing is that the language is strictly English. So the growing knowledge base is strict. That doesn't mean that, you know, English speaking people from outside the United States can't utilize it or they'll have translation. Translation. But my sense is that it'll be by Americans for America. It's like. Right, yeah. And so there's a feedback loop that Americans are having with themselves, you know, and on a lot of different levels, economically, politically, socially, you know. And I mean, the thing that Musk is doing is really fascinating because he's actually really having the best possible college seminar on just what is the First Amendment? You know, what, what is the freedom of speech? What is it? You know, and it's always been an open question. And you know, that was a country of 3 million people and now you have a country of 335 million and it's got vastly more communication technologies where you can voice your opinion on anything. And what changes when you get that scaling of reach and everything like that. So I think he's having. There was a CIA director who is going to be investigated in the coming congressional. He was, he was throughout Obama's, I think, when Obama was president. But he's been slamming Elon Musk for his, you know, his suggesting that there was dodgy dealings going on in the deep bowels of the United States government, you know, and, and so he, you know, he has these multi word tweets. He's slamming Elon Musk on Twitter, by the way.

Dean: Exactly.

Dan: And Musk sends Back. Man and glass. Man and glass. House throws rocks. That was his answer. I think he's. I think he's just having a fun break.

Dean: Myself.

Dan: It's 44 billion to have a fun break, Right?

Dean: Exactly. This is going to be. I mean, these next two years are going to be pretty amazing.

Dan: Oh, yeah.

Dean: Leading up to the election, you know,

Dan: pretty good for a guy who used to work in a car wash in northern Toronto.

Dean: Right, right, right.

Dan: Yeah. Anyway, I got lactrum today. Lots of pondering.

Dean: These are great.

Dan: I'll send you. I'll send you the worksheets. Okay.

Dean: Yeah, I appreciate it.

Dan: I'll send that. I'll get it off before the end of the day.

Dean: I thought you got your new. I thought. Thinking about your thinking book is ready. I'm sure that'll be arriving soon too. I can't wait.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: I had the first workshops last week. My last in person workshop was on Tuesday.

Dean: Nice.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: But it's very emotional. Very emotional on everyone else's part.

Dean: You were okay with it? Yeah.

Dan: There's a new train moving, a new train leaving, you know, so anyway.

Dean: Right.

Dan: But our coaches have to move up. So we have five coaches who are now jumping in 10 times and that's important for our growth.

Dean: Yeah. That's awesome. All right. Okay, Dan.

Dan: Well, I don't know what you're doing on Christmas, but I'm here.

Dean: Okay, well, let's detect. Because

Dan: let Becca know. Becca. You know, Becca controls my schedule. She'll. Yeah, but I'm here. We're not going anywhere. We have a lot of travel in January and February and we had a lot in November, so we're just chilling and cooling.

Dean: Oh, perfect. Well, then let's do that. Like nothing more than have a conversation. So let's plan on it. And then if something changes, I'll let you know for sure. But I would love that.

Dan: Yeah. Where's something red? Where's something red? Okay, bye.

Dean: We'll do that. Bye.