Advanced Learning for Development

Dean: Welcome to Cloudlandia. Well, I hope so.

Dan: Well, you know, you can only hope. You can.

Dean: Yes.

Dan: You can only have that. You can only have aspirations. That's what I say.

Dean: You know, that's what I said.

Dan: Futures, the future is just guesses and bets.

Dean: Unless you've got Peter Zion on your side here. I just heard a. He's on the Joe Rogan podcast this week. Did you hear that?

Dan: I did not. I wasn't following Joe last week.

Dean: Okay, well, there you go. I just listened to it this morning, and he's got a. Well, you've read the book many times. So his new book, I believe it's called the End of the World is Just the Beginning. Is that what it's called?

Dan: Yeah, I've read it. I've read it five times.

Dean: Five times, yeah.

Dan: Start to finish. Yeah.

Dean: Okay. So he's very. He's very optimistic about North America in the next 10 to 15 years. And I think he's right. I mean, based on everything, All the reasons that he's relative.

Dan: Relatively speaking. Yeah, relatively speaking. If you take the whole world into account, I take all my chips and put it on North America.

Dean: And I think that the North American outpost of Cloudlandia is really the. That's the winning combination. Being able to, you know, access and be a citizen of Cloudlandia with mainland outposts in North America is probably as good as it gets.

Dan: Yeah, it's really interesting. Over the past week, I've had conversations with Mike Koenigs and Peter Diamandis and with Gord Bickman, who's our podcast podcast manager here at Strategic Coach.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And we were just reflecting on the sudden emergence of chat GPT.

Dean: Oh, my goodness. I want to talk about it.

Dan: Yeah. And they've gone, you know, I mean, they went from 0 to 1 million users in five days, and they cross 2 million even quicker than that. Yeah. And. And it's noteworthy. It's very noteworthy.

Dean: Really is noteworthy. I mean, I. This. I heard this little bit of that, which is, you know, kind of frightening, actually. But it's saying that GPT4, which. We're using GPT3 right now, but GPT4 is an improvement of 500% or 500 times more powerful than GPT.

Dan: Wonder who measured. I wonder who measured that?

Dean: Well, I think what they measure it is in terms of the lines of general knowledge that it's been uploaded with or programmed with, is. It's. Actually, I thought that it's throttled right now because of the computational power required to access the, you know, the huge Pool kind of thing. It's out there like the one. The. Apparently that GPT4, like the bigger database of all the known knowledge is a. Is 500 times bigger than what the general know. So it goes from the equivalent of a super smart high school student to the smartest person on earth by a factor of multiples. You know, and that's kind of. It's amazing. I think that the big thing. I think that I was having great conversations about this week because I've been experimenting with it and the. It's crystal clear that the art of AI whispering is going to be a skill of the future that. That

Dan: already is.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: I think at the end of this. Yeah. I've had about three, well, two specific podcasts with Mike Koenigs. And you know, my general approach on it is that it's a wonderful first draft for any kind of thinking.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You know, we actually did one right on the program. Mike had Ray I, which for the folks who don't know what that is, it's just a transcription. It's a voice to print transcription service. So if you just put otter o T e r like the animal AI, then it will take any conversation, for example, the one that we're, you and I are having right now. It'll differentiate when Dean is speaking from when Dan is speaking. And then it'll do its best to capture faithfully in print what we say audibly. And then if we're using a term that it doesn't quite get the first time, later on, it'll get it right. And once it gets it right, it goes back and it corrects itself. If it hadn't really transcribed correctly the first time, then it goes back and it does.

Dean: That's crazy, isn't it?

Dan: Yeah. And then. But what we did is we just took a section where we had done some. We had done some interesting discussion and he captured it and then he put it into GPT. He said, this is what I want to do with it. I just want to, you know, break what. Break what was said here into five bullet points that are the compelling part. Compelling part of it. And you know, two, three seconds later, we had our gbt. So we've officially made GPT a partner on the podcast.

Dean: Okay. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. I'm just, I'm stunned by the whole thing. Like, I think learning the prompts and learning the ways to get what you want, I mean, I've been having like, just conversations with it. I asked in one session, List 10 book titles that would be successful Right now. And it just. Without thinking, like literally as fast as

Dan: it doesn't think, this is the first thing you have to understand. It's not thinking. It's not thinking the way that you and I think.

Dean: Right, exactly. So it was as fast as the words could be typed. It was typing one, the future of work, how the gig economy is shaping the new world. And number two, mindfulness. And something about mindfulness and something about minimalism and financial. Financial success and all the 10 really like compelling book titles.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: And then I said, okay, write a 10 chapter book outline for a book titled the future of work, how the Gig Economy is shaping the New world. End quote. And it listed out, you know, chapter one, the history of the gig economy. And then one, two, three, kind of one sentence, you know, summaries of what could be included in that. Chapter two, how technology is enabling the gig economy. And then one, two, three, and then chapter three. And it was just like. And then I just kept going deeper. I said, okay, write a thousand words on the history of the gig economy including and put the three things there. And then, you know, it went. And just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You could literally like write the whole book that way. Yeah, something, you know, and then I said, oh, give us case, you have an example of how that might work. I mean it was. So I've just been experimenting and I think that the better that you get at the prompting, the better it's going to be. You know, you could definitely assemble and then have an editor, you put it all together and polish it.

Dan: Well, you know, and I, to a certain extent, if you look at the 90 minute book, which is your platform for writing really fast, quickbook and my, my quarterly book team. Yeah, the way we do this, we've actually been doing this like in rudimentary form.

Dean: Yes, exactly.

Dan: Yeah. And so for example, I just completed the interview process of the current book. So this is a book that goes to the printer at the end of January and then it'll be ready for the first week of March for the, all the people in the program. And it's called Capitalism Dash and everything else. And, and the main point about it is that everything else is an ideology, but capitalism is a methodology. So capitalism is a way for someone to zero in on their unique individualism. Why are they unique as an individual? Why are they unique? And then go through five growth stages where you put a price on what your uniqueness is worth, your time, your talent and the results that you can produce. And your interaction with the world then creates Property that there's unique relationships, there's unique projects, there's unique things, and this is property. Every time you take your unique ability and interact with other people's issues or their opportunities or their problems, dangers, opportunities and strengths, you create new intellectual property. So you have pricing, you have property. And then once you establish sort of a base that you really like of interacting with the world, then you work to make your results more productive. So faster, easier, cheaper, and a bigger result, which over time, you're always bringing in more money than you're putting out for the effort. That's profitability. And then when you do this with other people who are doing the same thing, that creates prosperity. And so. And then I create little fast filters for each of the chapters. And then I'm interviewed by Shannon. She's always hitting me with things I haven't thought about. And this all gets transcribed by Otter AI and then it goes off to a writer and to a. To an editor, and we come back with finished copy. So I'm getting. The chapters are coming back and I don't change a word. It's really interesting because we've been together now as a team. We've been together for 28 quarters. And the editor and the writer are so good now at taking my fast filter outline and combining it with the transcript of the interview. And they just do a great job. And that comes back sometimes. I said, boy, that's really interesting.

Dan: I, I don't remember saying that, but that's a really good point that we've just picked up on. So to a certain extent, and you and I both had a challenge to write a book in a week way back when. And we both did. We both did. And. But the thing that this is doing is that it's using the knowledge base of the world to add to our project.

Dean: Well, that's. And I found that the distinction is that I think this is going to be absolutely under the right guide, fantastic way to write books with objective knowledge of things that are known and, you know, factual kind of things. Right. The technical challenges or explanations of things compared to subjective knowledge, which is something new that you as a creator are bringing into something like, for instance, writing a book about. I've just had it. We've got. I do a lot of work with financial advisors. We've got a book about Social Security, which just like is a handbook to answer people's questions about Social Security. So I'm. I was playing around and had just trying to prompt out the input for a book on Medicare. Same thing. Which is known knowledge. This is just like sitting down with somebody who knows everything about Medicare and having asked the questions that need to be addressed that I think it's going to be fantastic for those kinds of things and then amplified because financial advisor with years of experience is going to have different. They're going to have some subjective opinion on what is the best way to do. And I saying to someone, it reminded me of the centaurs, the chess, you know, the top chess rating people now are not. It's not AI and it's not a, you know, a chess master alone. It's a chess master paired with an AI enabled chess master who's able to have the computing power, the processing, the access to, you know, probability of what the right move is with also the ability to override or sense the subtleties or the nuances of what's happening with the human that you're playing against. Right. So there's, there's that I'm fascinated by this, you know, the ability for the.

Dan: Well, you know, here's, here's the. To a problem that was posed to you very early in life if only you would apply yourself, Dean. And you've been waiting, you know, you've been waiting. I mean you, you've been waiting for the right tool to come along that would, would present you things that are worth applying yourself to.

Dean: Yeah. And you know, I think that the bigger challenge thing is going to be that our. I think it's safe to, you know, this all happened end of November. Right. So it's really only been 60 days that it's been like hoisted on us. And everybody now, you see, you know, the world feels. Yeah, I think so. I mean it's a good. I think that everybody. Now you're being. What. I guess what we're being foisted upon now is all these, the experts on how to, you know, everybody now is becoming an AI expert. Right. How to all these AI side hustles and how to, you know, maximize. There's a whole industry of people teaching you how now to capitalize on AI and I think that it's going to enable, you know, a huge increase in the output of content and what.

Dan: Unfortunately, yeah. And do you mean that the number of fart jokes in the world is going to increase as a result of this?

Dean: Absolutely, I agree 100%. But what has not changed along with it is our capacity to intake more of the information.

Dan: That's a constant.

Dean: It is a constant. We're moving at 60 minutes per hour and that's all we can do, you know?

Dan: Yeah. Yep, yep.

Dean: Well, our brain can only impact.

Dan: I mean we were. Gord Vickman and I were on our GPT podcast and he said, do you think this will make useless people valuable now? It'll turn consumers and creators. I said oh no. If you're a consumer it'll just by your consumption by orders of magnitude. But if you're a producer it'll amplify and multiply your productivity. So actually it's a great fork in the road. And it's not even a fork, it's actually perpendicular.

Dean: Yeah, exactly.

Dan: It's like, it's like you're all traveling along the same road and then you come to a road where you either go to the right or you go to the left. It's not a fork, you know, it's not a fork. It's that non productive people will now be able to multiply their non productivity exponentially.

Dean: Now what do you think? Like I wonder about this, the exponential, the curve now of available content. If you talk about the creation date of things that we're helpless against the current amount of content that's created brand new. We're, you know, there's constantly new stuff coming in and I wonder like what happens with this backlog of inventory of content. Like how many books are you in now in your. This is your 30th quarterly book.

Dan: 33rd. 33rd.

Dean: 33. 33 quarterly book.

Dan: And I had 13. And I had 13 before this before I started the quarterly series. So I've 46. Had done 46.

Dean: So I'm just talking about the quarterly books now. So the quarterly books, you have a built in distribution network. It's part of the value of being in strategic coach that everybody in the program gets the. A copy of the books. The book or is it Every just in 10 times and free zone or everybody program.

Dan: Yeah, we have out clients who stay in touch with us and they can download the ebook version. You know, we don't send it out as a physical book, but go ahead.

Dean: So what happens with the consumption. So I imagine that it starts out that there's a spike in consumption of the most recent book that everybody has access to that. But what's happening with book number nine right now? What else. What, what's happening with the body of work? The catalog that you have now of these 33 books, are they on Amazon? Are they on. Are you.

Dan: Yeah, they're on Amazon.

Dean: What's happening with them?

Dan: Yeah, you know they're being purchased. You know they're being purchased and you know, and we're not trying to make money on these.

Dean: No, we're just.

Dan: It's just a program reinforcement number. A number of things is that they all get generated for the most part by a conversation will happen into. In a coach workshop. Somebody says something and I immediately translated into a book title. So I think in terms of book titles. And so what I'll do then is I'll say, is there a tool here? Is there a thinking tool that I can, you know, I can take this idea and just use the idea as a doorway into in a next workshop. And what I have this year is I'm not doing tomorrow will be marked the first time that another Coach has coached 10 times. So usually, as you remember pre Covid, you guys would come in on a Sunday night, we'd have a dinner at our house.

Dean: Dinner. Yeah, exactly.

Dan: And then next day would be the 10 times workshop where, yeah, not all the free zone people would be there, but there'd be free zone and then there would be 10 times clients. So it's a big room, you know, it's 50 people, 56, 60 people. And so tomorrow will be the first time that I'm not doing that Monday. Brower is the coach tomorrow and he's the first one. This is the. A historic event. It's a historic event. And, and this was all put in place with a decision halfway through 2021 where I said, you know, the end of 2022, I'm not doing 10 times workshops anymore. I just said it, I said, because the free zone would be growing. And in the meantime, I've created the new lifetime extender program. And I've also created now just coming up in March will be the IP Value Builder. And so what I needed time. I could see that things were developing where I wanted some time back. And the way that I do that is I just put a date in the calendar and saying, after this, I'm not going to do this anymore. So that's that. I really think of it because then the team has to say, well, if you're not going to do it, who's going to do it? And I said, that is a question to be answered, is a problem to be solved. And literally I have spent no time whatsoever on this transition. But we have five coaches all trained, ready to go, the schedules all laid out for next year. But what I did say is that during this 22 year, I will do the two hour Zoom calls for the 10 times community. So I did first one just on when did I do it? On Friday. So day before yesterday, I did it on Friday. It was terrific. We had 70 people there and it was great.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: But what I'm using these little two hour ones now is to test out a new tool every time. So brand new or a significant modification of a previous tool. And then as we go along and I'm approaching the end of a quarter and I never. There's a Canadianism, which don't get ahead of your skis. Okay.

Dean: Right, right.

Dan: Yes. And what I make sure is that I don't line up a whole bunch of the next 10 quarters. You know, I'm going to do this book in this book. And what I'm doing is that I'm just paying attention to everything that's happening during the quarter. And I'm writing one book anyway, and we're getting near the end of the book and so I said, I wonder what the next book will be. And there's already a schedule for my first interview with Shannon, so I've got a deadline. And then I'm pretty clear about what number 34 is right now. So I've already done some thinking on it. And it'll be called Geometry for Staying Cool and Calm.

Dean: Geometry for Staying Cool and Calm. I like that.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. And I talked about that last podcast, the three Rule. The geometry consists of three rules that you configure differently. And the first one is everything is made up. And I guess GPT is certainly going to. I bet the amount of stuff that's been made up in the last 60 days is amazing. You know, I think it's just an amazing amount of new stuff that just got made up. And then the second one is nobody's in charge. Yes. GPT is proof of that. GPT is sort of proof of that. Who's in charge of this? Who's giving permission for people to, you know, Is this the World Economic Forum in Davos? Are they the ones who approve that millions of humans can do this? And then the third one is life's not fair. And so I asked Gord to do a little bit of investigating on who's using this GPT thing. Do they have any profile? And then one's emerging already. It's 95% men. Okay, okay. Right off the bat, it's 95% men. And of the men who are using that, 95% of them are Americans.

Dean: Okay. Wow.

Dan: So if you thought things were unequal before, you haven't seen anything yet. Yeah.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Wow.

Dean: So this is really.

Dan: And America is the kind of country and America is Just the kind of country where this sort of thing can happen real fast.

Dean: Yeah, yeah. This is really. I mean, it's something I can't just kind of wrap in my mind. You know, I think what Peter Zion's really talking about is just the dying importance of geography and mainland. You know, what was the power thing, the power shifts of, you know, of mainland domination or mainland success. Land and people and resources and transportation and manufacturing. All of those things which were all, you know, the elements of mainland success are now really becoming less and less relevant. I didn't realize how, you know, he talked about the people in China as the biggest problem. Just the population, you know, the policies that they've had for so long of one, one child and mostly, you know, which really brought mostly men, which they don't have the population ability to maintain. The. What they need.

Dan: Even the Chinese. Even the Chinese in. The authorities in China who, you know, I don't know how one gets to talk about this when you're in a country like that, but they're saying that the one is that there are 100 million less than has been published before. The number was 1.4, 1.4 billion. And they, the Chinese said we over counted by 100 million. Right. I mean, how do you miss. How do you miss 100 million? Well, you got to know what it's like in China. And the thing about it. And they figure that of those hundred million that they miss, 70 million of them were women. And this. So this is that with the one child policy, what you had is they can do sonograms and they can tell whether, you know, the fetus is male or female. And they aborted. They aborted all the females. You know, only the males got bored. Yeah, but the problem is that 20 years down the road you got yourself a real problem because where are the women for the men to reproduce?

Dean: That's exactly right. That's what they're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dan: And I was, you know, men are expendable. Men are the. You and I and all the other males, those. I learned a new word that's a British word, this. And it's in the. The Prince Harry Tells all book that's coming out on Tuesday, which basically is already out there. But he was in Antarctica a decade ago or so and I don't know quite how this happened, but he. His penis got frost. Frostbitten.

Dean: Oh my goodness.

Dan: So, yeah, he had a frostbitten penis. But the British word for that, there's a Britishism, it's called a Tajir he had a frozen tajir. I thought that's a neat word. Todger.

Dean: Oh, that's great.

Dan: Yeah. But the thing about this is that if you have one woman, if you have a hundred women and one man with a working dodger, you know, I mean, like, it actually works. You can. You could create a whole new civilization with 100. With one man and 100 women. But try it the other way. Try running man with one women. And what you have is really tired woman. By Friday, the woman is really tired.

Dean: Oh, my goodness.

Dan: And that's what China has done. They've overloaded it with, you know, and the other thing is that the way they had developed their economy, the proportion of young women and young men are not even close to each other in the country, okay? Because the high tech firms, which are, if you look at the map, the central city, I mean, the central city of China in relationship to the world is Shanghai. And it's got a big river system that goes in from the. From, you know, from the.

Dean: The.

Dan: The straits between Taiwan and China. But it's the eastern coast. Or I mean, think about. Yeah, the eastern coast of China, which is the only coast part of China which is east coast. Right in the middle of that is this big river system that goes in. Shanghai is the first big city. And then you take it from Shanghai, you go out to the water, and then you go south and you go all the way around to Hong Kong. That's the real tech part of China. That's the technology part of China. You know, all the big tech companies. Foxconn has 200,000 workers, you know, and that's a Taiwanese company. I mean, that's a Taiwanese company that works in China. And. But you look at the workforce, and I bet 80% of their workforce would be women, not men. And they, you know, and they live in, you know, apartments or, you know, condos or whatever. They have five or six of them, but there's no men. There's no men. You know, so they. And they're looking. You know, they're looking. They're not looking for some farmer from far stretches of China. They're not looking that, you know, women always go up and grade when they think about who they want to spend the rest of their life with.

Dean: Well, that's, you know, the interesting thing I saw Scott Galloway doing. He was talking about how, you know, this would fit in Cloudlandia as dating and mating has really shifted to online, that there's only that it's so disproportionate that Only the top 5% of men online on Tinder or on the dating things are getting any attention on the profile. So all the women are competing for 5%. They're getting all the attention to the 5% of guys that are in India visually attractive or height because it shows by height and those kind of things that most men are not even getting opportunity because there's. They're not being, not getting any attention from the women. And I've heard on other podcasts women, you know, talking about the same thing that it's affecting dormant, negative because they're giving. They're all chasing after the same 5% but their standards are so high that they heard one of them say that they're. That. That all women only match or choose or swipe on deem 20% of men even attractive. Which is like. So. Yeah. So you see these, all these unintended consequences I think right. Of. Yeah, they're all coming.

Dan: Yeah. And they're, you know, Peter, you're start. You mentioned Peter Zion and from his first book, which he's written four books, so the last one, which just came out last June, which is the end of the world is just beginning. He's always talked about this, that there's only five major countries, you know, that you would consider advanced countries that actually have an okay demographics. In other words, that they're, you know, they're having enough children that they'll have, you know, between ages 20 to 50. Usually that's your real carry key demographic is your population between 20 and 50. Because that's when children are produced. This is, these are the biggest consumers, these are the big producers. Okay. And you want your numbers to be even with each other. You want men and women to be even with each other. Another thing is that he's had the problem if you don't have enough 20 year olds. He says the problem is it takes 20 years to get one.

Dean: Wow. Yeah, that's true. Right. And it's already a perpetuating thing. How are you going to speed up? How are you going to get.

Dan: Yeah, and they're expensive. They're expensive.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Yeah. And I grew up on a farm and I wasn't expensive. I was free labor. But. And then, but the moment you move into a town, two things happen. These, you know, the space you have to grow up in is limited. So you can't have, you know, you can't have seven or eight kids in a condo. And, and you. And the other thing is that they're not producing anything. You know, I mean, right from as early as I can remember growing up on the farm that you had a job. So you had. You. There were jobs already assigned for you. And you're in my case, I was number five. So the older four. Boy, they were. There was no. I tell you, there was no vacation for them at all.

Dean: Right.

Dan: They worked in the fields, you know, and. And so then you could have really big. You could have really big families. And the problem with China is, you know, they. They. They just. They've just made so many bad guesses and bad, you know, so many bad bets. And then they had the, you know, for a while, there was a huge immigration, the outflow. I mean, Toronto has five Chinatowns now. You know, the city of Toronto has, you know, I mean, there used to be the old Chinatown, which was Spadina Lower.

Dean: Right?

Dan: Yeah. But now there. There's one Gerard that's just before you get to Scarborough. There's one out in Brantford, there's one in Markham, and they have 250,000. Chinese have 250,000 out there. You know, that's the population. Chinese population of Markham, you know, sort of the area, not necessarily the town.

Dean: Right.

Dan: But the five countries that Peter Zion talked about is that us is fine. Us is fine. Because the baby boom generation really produced. They had a lot of children, the American baby, and that's the millennials. The millennials are the children of the baby boom generation. Not as big as the baby boom generation, but the American baby boom was 65 million. 65 million were born during 20 years. And you're one of them.

Dean: You're one of. I'm actually.

Dan: You're just across the line.

Dean: Yeah. In the second year of Generation X. So my generation, from 65 to 1980, there's actually less of us by a factor of, you know, 15 million or something.

Dan: Oh, yeah. And the other. I was two years the other way. So you're two years on the other side of the boomer generation, and I'm two years before the baby Boon Joe generation. So I was generation.

Dean: First silent generation. Right.

Dan: Yeah. We were the first gen. The first American generation from the beginning that was smaller than the one before. It was because of the Depression and the Second World War. Yeah, yeah. And. Yeah. And so I've always, you know, there's always been more than enough of everything, you know, my life. Yeah, yeah. I had.

Dean: Oh, yeah. Because you rode the wave. You rode the crest of everything.

Dan: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Dean: I mean, you know, that was being prepared for the abundance post war.

Dan: Yeah, yeah.

Dean: I think we're. I just look historically, like I'm so fascinated with these to just imagine what are we looking, you know, if we're looking back from 2050 right now on this period of time, like what is, what does that mean? That China is dying or that it's, you know, the words that he used

Dan: that China, I mean Peter Stein says they're gone, they're gone by 2030. He says, yeah, within the decades. Yeah. And that's historically, I wonder like, yeah, this is the longest that there's been a China in one piece.

Dean: And the same about Russia, that's like, oh yeah, yeah.

Dan: And so you start to think, okay,

Dean: so what does that mean? Like when large swaths of the globe are, you know,

Dan: off the populated grid

Dean: or off the main depopulating or out of service, like what does that again, I guess it's really, you know, we're. Well as other areas are resurging. Like it was so funny. James Drage, who's a friend, I'm sure you know James.

Dan: Oh Yeah, he said 100 times.

Dean: That's right, 100k. Ingenious network. Right. And so he was hearing us talk about the, about Neom, about Jesse, my, my guy Jesse with the VCR formula project for NEOM in Saudi Arabia bringing in, bringing in the top photographers from, from Getty Images to do, you know, the document this whole region kind of thing as a, having access to their capability as amazing photographers and the reach that they all have individually. And so James was talking about that but just so happens he's working on a project that's involving NEOM as part of his down tube. And so I was able to connect him with Jesse who they, Jesse knows all the people that James has been communicating with but you start to see that these other areas, you know, emerging like it doesn't seem like, I mean the ambition that Saudi Arabia has for NEOM is going to rival what they've done in Dubai and Abu Dhabi and the Emirates kind of thing. They're building this whole new area of the world with huge vision and plans for it and bottomless buckets of money. Seems like,

Dan: yeah, I mean I'm going here on Peter Zion. He thinks that the Saudis are driving down a one way street that you can't turn around. And he said part of the problem is that they're not having children. Like Saudi Arabia is not having children. And anybody who does any work, anybody who does any work in Saudi Arabia is from outside of. So if it's menial work, it's from Pakistan. You know, they import people from all over, all the work, work and then all the expert, the expertise is coming in from, you know, the western countries and everything else.

Dean: Right, right. Yeah.

Dan: I mean they're basically why Jersey is there. Yeah. They're still basically a tribe with a UN seat. You know, they're a tribe with a flag. They're still, you know, they're still a tribal, kind of tribal organization. They don't have any democracy, as we would understand. Here's a really good example, just to throw a couple more pieces on the board for future discussions. Full things that I think if you put it together with GPT, number one is the. What happened in the Congress, the United States Congress, the five day marathon where it took 15 votes to get the speaker. Okay.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And everybody has their opinions about this and saying, you know, you know, what a cluster. Add the second word if you want and you know, what a mess. What a thing. Actually it was a marvelous example of democracy in the open for five days because it was all deal making for five days. I mean after the third vote they were redesigning the party. So the first day was three votes and he lost all three votes. McCarthy. Kevin. Yeah, who is the speaker. But by the fourth vote to the 15th vote, the entire new structure of the party was being created. The rules were being changed, the people who get in charge of committees and whatever agenda McCarthy had, when he started on the first vote, his agenda was gone and that agenda became a party, you know, and. But the other thing is there were no news about the Democrats during those five days. The GOP had total mainstream coverage for five days. And yeah, and it's all negotiation. I mean politics is start to finish. It's all negotiation. You know, we want this, you want that. And they had a constant that first of all he wanted to be speaker and secondly there was no alternative except him. But he had to get the votes and he couldn't get, he couldn't get the votes. So I just put that out there. That has not happened since the 1860s. You have not had that many votes had to be taken to get a speaker in saying so 1860, 163 years I think it was. The other thing is the. What happened on New Year's Eve in this town in the Russian controlled territory of Ukraine where they brought in a whole bunch of new troops and they put them in a school, the school was, you know, the. And they put him in there and all the officers went off for a party. But while they were gone, poor rockets. Oh geez, you know, oh no, you Know, she's not any smarter than she was last week. Yeah, that was. Yeah, no, I don't think that series really up on GPT, you know, because they haven't done it yet. So anyway, the four rockets. And these are these amazing American rockets, the Himars.

Dan: And they just noticed that a lot of personal phone calls, using personal telephone calls were. They're not supposed to use their personal phones. So the soldiers, you know, but the officers went off for a party and everybody was phoning home to, you know, wish Happy New Year and everything. And the casualty figures, you know, even The Russians had 89 were killed and, you know, and probably two or three times more casualties than deaths. And it was just a case that this integrated system, which is an intelligence system, which starts with an American AWAC plane, which is 200 miles away, 250 miles. They're not even in the battle zone. Just picks up on all these phone calls and they say, we got a cluster of them. They're all Russian. They're all flown phoning back. It'd be good to send a couple of rockets right there. And these rockets, you know, if you look at a little table you have right next to you where you're talking to me today, they would just put the GPS position of that table, and that's where the rocket. That's where the rocket would hit. So you've got that as this is an entirely new form of warfare. You know, it's all based on Cloudlandia. It's all Cloudlandia based or. Except the actual rockets itself are very much mainland, and where they're hitting is very much mainland, but everything in between is Cloudlandia. And so my sense is that some remarkable normal events are being radically changed because of Cloudlandia. And it'll be interesting to see what happens to the process of government with GPT. And I'll give you an example of who's scared about this. So on Thursday, the Toronto School Board. So the Metro Toronto school Board banned GPT.

Dean: Oh, really? Oh, for. Oh, boy. So that's like.

Dan: No, for anything. It can't be on any school networks, Any of the school networks. And I said, yeah, I said, you know, you guys are. You just made every student in your system just totally interested in GPT.

Dean: Yeah, exactly. I mean, that.

Dan: You just banned it. You know, it's like Barbra Streisand's. It's like the photo of Barbara Streisand's Malibu house, you know.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: You go to Wikipedia and look up the Barbra Streisand Effect. And it's. There's a whole description that she noticed that a picture of her house from height was published and she got her lawyers to seize the photos, see if she can seize the photos and everything else. And it just went viral around the world. Everybody knows what her house looks like. So I don't know if this was subtle on the part of the Toronto school board. I suspect, not that they would ban it, you know, that they would ban GPT. And this way we'll get them all on GPT. I don't think that they're that far advanced now.

Dean: The funny thing, in the age of the transition to GPT, to all of the knowledge being available to be able to, you know, write essays and do those things. I heard from Peterson talked about instructing GPT to write an essay about a 13th rule, adding a 13th rule to his book 12 Rules for Life, written in a combination style between the King James Bible and the talentsy. Something which it wrote without any thought or effort and would have been like, completely, you know, thoughtful and would have completely fit in the. In the thing. And I thought, you know, like what you just described, that this is. It's here. It's inevitable. It's going to change the landscape. It's not. Nobody needs to research and write an essay anymore. When you can, you know, write a. You can instruct GPT to write it. But how's that. That's just handicapping the students for the new world. I mean, that. That's a new capability that's in there. And I think it would be so much better if the school system embraced it and taught.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Well, it's interesting as a way.

Dan: Yeah. One of our key team members, marketing team members at coach Linda Spencer, we were having. I have my project managers for Christmas party and we were out and she was talking about her husband, who's a professor at Seneca, I think the Seneca College. And he got onto GPT when it first came out for himself. And he said, you know, I'm just gonna make sure all my students know this right away, and I'm going to encourage them to learn how to do all their coursework in GPT. And that way, nothing, none of the. None of their work's going to be late. You know, there. It's going to be late. He says it'll be grammatically correct. It'll be. Spelling will be correct. Spelling will be correct. And he said. And he says, and I created. I'm creating a GPT process for grading their essays. For grading their essays. So as soon As I get their GPT essay, I'll run it through my GBT course grader and that'll speed up giving me. Giving grades out. Okay.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: So there seems to be cases. Yeah. I mean, there was a professor, they showed him, you know, 10. Ten examples of essays, and he said right off the bat, they have a C plus. He said, they just have a C for initiative and for effort. And he says, I can tell that they're. That they're on the imagination scale. Some of them are ten times more imaginative of how they views GPT. So maybe that's.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Get graded on from now on.

Dean: I had GPT write a scene from a movie about Johan, and it. Where he's telling his best friend about his discovery, and his friend is skeptical. And it writes this. It writes the scene. The scene opens in whatever, you know, with Johannes Gutenberg and his best friend Heinrich. And he's telling Heinrich.

Dan: So it's like Newhart routine.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Remember the Bob Newhart did. He did two routines. One was Abner Doubleday describing a new game called baseball. And this whole routine is. He says, abner, what.

Dean: What's a foul? What's foul?

Dan: I mean, why do you call it foul? You know, why is it fair and foul? And then the other one, Sir Walter Raleigh coming back from the new world with a whole boatload of leaves. Tobacco. Here comes crazy guys. Crazy Walter again.

Dean: Cheese.

Dan: You know, this guy's. You know, he just has the wildest ideas, you know, and they're just hilarious. So you just hit on. You should just write one up on. Somebody has this new innovation called GPT, and you put it in front of a whole bunch of sketches. Yeah.

Dean: In the style. Who's on first. Yeah, exactly.

Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's gonna be a. There's gonna be a lot of wasted time here. Yeah. And of course, everybody's work on GPT is adding to the knowledge base of GPT.

Dean: Yes, of course. That's it. Because now then it's learning when it gets praised and when it gets. When it gets instructed on how to clarify something. It's like the collective wisdom of all of it. Right. Yeah. It's just so.

Dan: I mean, Gord Beckman was telling me that they just had to do a bar exam for one of the states and it passed with flying colors.

Dean: Yeah, I think I saw that they gave it an SAT test and it got like, you know, I forget what the number was, but it, you know, was. Did really well. Like, better than. It was a really good 12th grade student kind of thing. You know, that's the, that's where it's at.

Dan: Well, I'm really interested that a360 this year, Peter has one whole day. AI is it, is it later this

Dean: year then when is it? I remember seeing on my.

Dan: It's in March. It's in March, Yeah. And they've added a whole day just for AI. They've added. So they have a whole day now for longevity, a long day for AI. But one of the speakers is Salmon Khan. You know, Khan Academy, you know, so that's from Iran.

Dean: I know Khan Academy, yeah.

Dan: And he's talking about how the, all the work that he's done over the last 25 years, he's created thousands and thousands. His company has created thousands of thousands of little six and seven minute lessons. But now you, you know, you could create a whole school curriculum, you know, with GPT. You know, this, these are Salmon con lessons for first graders, you know, any subject area and they just put together the curriculum. And, and you know, it's, it's really interesting. Steve Johnson is a coach client, 10 times coach client from Toronto. He created a software that can reschedule 27,000 people within one minute after delays or cancellations, you know, and, and but he said the big problem is that the routes that the airlines have just don't make any. Because if you take a big one like United, well, you go back, you know, you go back 50 years and that's probably a combination of 25 different airlines that have been taken over through mergers and acquisitions. And what came along with them as part of the deal were their schedules, you know, where they went and everything. But probably after Covid. They don't make any sense whatsoever. The. So you just put a GPT, just say what's the best schedule for our entire airline? And please have it 80% complete. I'm going to go for a P. By the time I come back,

Dean: We're living in amazing times.

Dan: Well, it's, it's not fair. Everything's made up and nobody's in charge.

Dean: So everything is made up and the points don't matter. That's right.

Dan: Yeah. So anyway, it's a. Certainly I gotta compliment both of us for not getting hooked on too much labor intensive activity.

Dean: Oh yeah, exactly right.

Dan: That we've avoided obsolete labor intensive focus in our life.

Dean: Yeah, yeah. I'm just, I'm so excited now. I mean this is, you know, the great news is when you incorporate GPT into my sphere now as applying my expanded self. Self. My sphere. Leadership and finance. This is Imagined if we apply it ourselves.

Dan: Well, it is. And you know, we're going to have to learn how to. I was just looking up before I talked to you, the social impact of Gutenberg's press, 1450. 1455, you know, and what it changed almost within the next hundred years in Europe. First of all, it was not a peaceful Europe. I mean, not that Europe ever has been. Wasn't a peaceful Europe. It just disrupted everything, just that people could now publish and. Yeah, and you know, we've had jumps along that, you know. You know, right up to Mr. Beast with YouTube, what he was doing. This one individual capability. But I got a feeling that this. Anything that's happened really fast, really big, really disruptively in the past, this one has a chance to be 100. Well, infinitely bigger than all of them put together.

Dean: Especially because of the platform where we're coming from right now that everybody's already connected. We're already, you know, the, the way we're able to zoom. Cloudlandia and information is able to zoom around. I mean, you just hit it on the head. Five, you know, five days and a million people are all checked. I mean, that's.

Dan: Yeah, yeah. I think the thing that I wrote down the first weekend we were starting to talk about abundance. 360. We didn't even have the name, but it was in Silicon Valley. And Peter Diamantes invited us and any coach, people who wanted to come because he and Ray Kurzweil were doing a series of videos on the future. And Ray Kurzweil was talking and he was talking. You know, we're not too far from in the future where the computerization will be. Have a higher intelligence level than human intelligence.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: And so I wrote down something and I've looked at it almost monthly for the last 13 years, that humanity is always infinitely bigger than anything that humanity creates.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: And that another thing I says, it's not humanity that's trying to keep up with technology, it's technology that's trying to keep up with humanity. It's an endless discussion point because who's ahead here and who's trying to catch up, you know, and my sense is the 2 million or 3 million now might be in check this morning. 3 million who are using this are creating an incredible amount of new stuff, stuff that people who are in positions of power know nothing about. So what. I mean, it's like the. Whoever the, you know, the key people are at the Toronto School board, they have no way of even knowing how to think about this, let alone to use it for themselves.

Dean: Right.

Dan: And it's not that. It's not the technology that's getting out of hand. It's the humans using the technology that's getting out of hand. You know, it's getting out of hand.

Dean: Yeah. Wow. Wow. Well, I'm always.

Dan: This is a historic. This is a historic cat podcast.

Dean: Yes. I think everyone every, you know, the developments are moving along so fast. I mean, Club Landing is completely different.

Dan: Yeah. From. Yep, yeah.

Dean: Yep.

Dan: I think I remember when I first met Babs and I did a strategy circle for her on her business. She had a health, health nutrition, massage business. She was right in Chinatown in Toronto. And I had met her at, you know, at a conference. And then I told her what I did and she says, you think you could do that for my business? And I said, sure, take two or three hours. And I took her through the strategy circle. And when we got finished the strategy circle, she had her next three years all planned out. And she said, this is going to be really big. And I said, your business. And she's not. This thing you're doing, the strategy circle. She said, this is really big what you're doing here. And, and you know, I was just scrounging for money. You know, I just had a neat way to make money where I didn't have to know anything. And anyway, and we just had our best year ever. And you know, we have 130 team members and we have 2,500 clients this year. And profit wise, we're right up to where we were the year before COVID So we are. Our profits were equal to what it was in 2019 with less revenue. But if you take everything that we've done, all the capabilities we've developed, and multiply them by GPT. How big?

Dean: Right. Exactly. Amazing. Well, it won't be long now. You're going to be down here very soon.

Dan: Yeah.

Dean: Less than 30 days.

Dan: And we're going to have a panel. I have five panelists. You kick off the day with your update and I'll send you a fast filter of what I'm thinking.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: Perfect.

Dean: Okay.

Dan: Yeah. And, and you will have done your, your virtual, your virtual free zone by them too, so.

Dean: Yeah.

Dan: Huh.

Dean: Yeah. It's all very exciting.

Dan: It is, you know, but I've had three GPT specific podcasts this week, and that's, that's an indicator that, you know, 3 million are using it, 30 million are talking about using it.

Dean: That's the truth. Are experiencing the 300 million are experiencing. Is it live or is it Memorex, you know, is it real or is it.

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. So what are we going to do with this, Mr. Edison? What are we going to do with this electricity thing? This illumination? Tell me again.

Dean: I know exactly.

Dan: All right.

Dean: All right. Well, have a great week and I will. I'll be here same time.

Dan: Okay? Okay. Yeah, I'll be back in Toronto next week, so I'll talk to you then.

Dean: Bye.

Dan: Bye.